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Double Milestone! Ottoman And Roman Judaean

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Just a couple of Christmas gifts to myself (I'd have more coin gifts of course but I'm saving my cash for this kinda expensive coin). I don't know a whole lot about them; just thought it'd be neat to have a coin of the Pontius Pilate, and an Ottoman coin from the setting of one of my video games (early 16th century Constantinople). Plus, as a collector of Roman coins, I think it'd be cool to have a coin of the nation that finally extinguished the Roman Empire. It's of Sultan Bayezid II.

Also, 2 questions about the prutah: for cataloging, would it be Judaean, or should I count it as Roman? Or even Greek (Wildwinds has him in this category)? And would the mint be Jerusalem?

Ottoman Empire - Bayezid II (reigned 1481-1512) AR akce

Constantinople mint, 12 mm
Double-Milestone!-Ottoman-And-Roman-Judaean

Pontius Pilate AE Prutah (minted 30-31 AD)

Obv: TIBEPIOY KAICAPOC, lituus (Augur's staff)
Rev: LIZ or LIH within wreath

15 mm
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darn cool - that Pont. Pilate must have set you back a bit! high demand coins those. I suppose any biblical coin would be.
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that Pont. Pilate must have set you back a bit!
Not really . Was only $22
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Neat coins! I have been looking at some Ottoman coins of the same period!
The Pilate is cool and these coins generally carry a premium in any condition, kudos to you. Now on to the issue of classification. I personally would consider it a Roman Provincial coin minted in Judea in the name of Tiberius. The legend is in Latin and names the Emperor. Good Xmas scores!
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I picked up a silver akce for $5 a couple of years ago but I still need to fully attribute it.
Bronze prutahs are a bit harder to come by, but they can be found.
I have an example of a prutah of Valerius Gratus (AD 15-26), which would have circulated while Jesus was on Earth. Perhaps He would have been familiar with the coins of Valerius Gratus. Perhaps one of these could have been the Widow's Mite.

This would have been just before the time that Pontius Pilot flew aeroplanes!
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I personally would consider it a Roman Provincial coin minted in Judea in the name of Tiberius. The legend is in Latin and names the Emperor.
You mean the legend is in Greek But yeah I don't see any reason not to put it as a Roman provincial.


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I have an example of a prutah of Valerius Gratus (AD 15-26), which would have circulated while Jesus was on Earth.
Thanks sel, now I have something else to be on the lookout for And the funny thing is, I think I saw a cheap one of him but I can't remember at all where online I saw it

Thanks for the comments guys!
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Jango => nice gifts to yourself (it is the only real way to ensure that you're gonna get the gift that you want, eh?)

Hey, Merry Christmas Jango!! (you were one of the first dudes that I met, through the infamous "Never-Ending Story" thread) ... may it RIP

=> well, I'm very glad to hear that you got the gift that you were asking for (or buying for yourself)

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Ooops Greek your right Sorry...I had Latin on my mind...we were watching the 10 Commandments on History Channel and they kept saying Latin.
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Interesting pieces
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Very Nice VK...

Great Bargain on the Pontius Pilate!
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They are both nice coins. I would love to have a coin of P. Pilate.
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VK, awesome, I love the Prutah's, nice pick up..
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Thanks guys
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Not bad. I don't have a Pontius Pilate coin yet, but maybe in the future. I also don't have a Ottoman Empire coin either.
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nice vk, 22 bucks is a pretty good price for that pilate!
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Great coins VK!

Nice score on the P Pilate!
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