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Picked this up from a good sport, got it reasonable.
I am trying to verify a grade, it is in ANACS plastic.
Whatcha think?
I will try to describe the luster. At first glance, the coin appears quite dark. But turn it to the light and the luster is quite striking. I can't quite get it to cartwheel, but it is close.
I don't want to say to much . . . will be interested to hear your comments.

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reverse looks wiped a bit...its a strong high AU...nice pick up
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Looks to be in very nice shape, I'm going with MS63
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The wiped appearance on the reverse (wreath side?) seems to be akin to a slight "woody" appearance. Copper is not my thing, so I am probably saying all kinds of wrong things.
I do not believe it has been wiped.
I did get it to cartwheel if I hold it just right, but it is minimal.
I wish I could capture the luster in the photo, but no dice.
I am looking for a break in the luster on the arrow points and the "we". Am I looking in the right place?
What are the pick up points for this series?
I checked, and see that quite a few of these have come across this forum in the last few weeks. They must be fairly common . . .
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The scratch at the top of the shield side is in the plastic . . .
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I would say high AU at minimum but possibly a MS coin. I think I see a rub on the leaves on the obverse so that is why I am hedging here. Possible light cleaning from pictures.

Cool things going on with it: little Cud on the obverse, attractive woody on the reverse, cracks on reverse.

Very nice coin! Better than any 2 centers in my collection.

EDIT: meant to say cracks on the reverse, not obverse.
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Old white ANACS holder, Blue label or the new Orange label? Grading standards have varied so much over the last few years they it will make a difference the type of holder its in and the grade they assigned. Sad but true.

There are a few distracting hits on the coin that would keep it from making high MS, if its in the new holder I suspect ANACS gave it an MS62 But looking at your comments about the color they don't match the image so its just a guess on my part. If its a nice chocolate brown and has full luster they may have added points for eye appeal.
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Moved the lights around a bit and this is pretty close to the actual color.
It is an ANACS small white holder. With barcode. If that is supposed to be a hologram on the back, it is pretty sad.


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MS63.....I love it !
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OK, here it is.
I tracked the holder down to a type 13 (?) holder of 1992 or so. Six digit barcode.

You guys think I should crack it out? Cross it over? Enjoy it?

As I said, copper is not my thing really, I will probably sell it.

Thanks for the replies!!



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It would go in a MS holder with the new style of holder
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It would have to go to 63 to make any real money over 58, and even then not a home run.
If I do crack it out, it will be just for fun.
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I think they got this one right at AU-58.
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Looking at the coin in hand, I am looking for wear on the high points. The arrows, the "WE" and if it is there I can't see it. Looking for a break in the luster or the color, it all looks the same as far as I can see.
Really no reason to crack it out in any case, the money just isn't there.
Can someone articulate what I should be looking for? To separate a high AU from a low MS?
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