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How does this one look?   |
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New Member
United States
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Do you mean what is the grade of the coin or is it authentic? I will attempt to answer both issues to the best of my ability. The grade is on the cusp of VG and F. The first step in determining if a Trade dollar is authentic is to weigh it. Since you did not post a weight there is little more that I can write about that aspect. From the images that you provided, the coin appears to be the correct type for the years 1873 and 1874, that is a Type 1 obverse and reverse. The obverse diagnostics for Type 1 are as follows: three visible fingers holding the olive branch, the points of the scroll pointing left at a downward angle. The reverse diagnostics are: left wing tip does not touch the second arrow, lowest arrow ends just above where the 2 begins, tip of the laurel leaf does not pass between the 0 of 900 and the F of FINE and lastly, that the laurel berries are elongated rather than being round. When purchasing uncertified Trade dollars, the source of the coin is very important to me. I always will choose the coins of a known longtime bricks and mortar dealer over those of a dealer who just registered on ebay last week. Roderick |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Coin looks real from the photos and would probably pull a VF-20 grade.
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Pillar of the Community
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558 Posts |
It weighs 26.97 grams (416.2 grains).
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United States
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That is in the range of the weight of an authentic Trade dollar that has slight loss of silver through wear. If the coin were the right price I would certainly add it to my collection in a moment. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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VF details...old cleaning...nice rainbow patina...enjoy!
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United States
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After a second look at your posted images, I have changed my mind about the earlier grade that I assigned to this coin. I now see the coin as firmly FINE. I did not see the partial E in the motto on the first viewing. It is interesting to me that other members of the forum assign the coin a grade of VF. In my own opinion and it is just that, an opinion of a non-expert, the coin does not meet the standards of VF in that the word LIBERTY and the motto IN GOD WE TRUST are neither strong nor are the words E PLURIBUS UNUM fully strong on the reverse with the E being only partially visible. If the E were stronger, I would grade the reverse as VF.
Only an opinion, and according to the USMC.................
Roderick
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Valued Member
United States
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It will go fine.10 and possibly Fine.15. That's a good year to have, and the first year.
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United States
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My original thought was VF-20 and then I reassessed after reading Roderick's post. I can see someone calling it a F-15. However, there is a VF-25 coin for sale on Harry Laibstain's website that is very close to this one. Based on a comparison of hat coin, I am sticking to my original VF-20. I'd be happy with that coin in my collection.
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Israel
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I don't think this one will make VF. F15 for me.
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Back from the graders. Better than expected.  |
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No criticism at anyone intended, but looking back at this thread, does anyone else feel the later responses were influenced by an early, authoritatively-voiced opinion?
And, congrats BrickellCat!
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No criticism at anyone intended, but looking back at this thread, does anyone else feel the later responses were influenced by an early, authoritatively-voiced opinion? My response wasn't. I was basing it off my own Trade dollar graded VF-30 by NGC and by another one for sale. This coin was nice but I think NGC gave it a generous grade. I'm not saying this to put down this coin because I like it. They just seem to be a little inconsistent lately. |
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Nice coin, I missed it when you posted it. I first always look at the coin as the page scrolls down, before reading and letting others comments influence me. I was at VF and self debated whether or not it would get a details grade due to an old cleaning, decided it would probably not, as the coin has sufficently aged with nice patina to be passsed off as wear at VF. I don't know that I would have gone 35 points though maybe 25 but congrats that's a great looking coin!
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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