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1884 CC Uncirculated GSA With Die Cracks?

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This is a recent purchase. It has a crack that starts in states from the T to the top of the E across the top of the eagles left wing on the bottom of the A the M and across the top of the E the R the I to the C. Is this a VAM?

1884-CC-Uncirculated-GSA-With-Die-Cracks?

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Looks like a VAM4B. Nice die cracks!
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I just noticed it has a crack all along the top of pluribus and unum on the obverse also.
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Yeah, check out VAMworld and look up 1884 CC VAM4B. Your coin is a lock for that listing.
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We just loaded a pic of the top of the obverse. Thanks dave700x for the ID. I'll check out Vamworld.
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I checked out Vamworld and their picture looks just like my coin, except it's not in as good condition.
You were right on dave, they say it's an 1884cc VAM4B Die break E spiked date. I checked and the date is spiked!
Do you know if this affects the value any?
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I'm not sure if this affects the value, but my guess would be no. The interest level is only a 2 which typically means little to no additional value over a more common die variety.

What I find most interesting about this coin is the evidence of a die clash event on the obverse with none on the reverse.
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 Posted 01/08/2013  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arcticsparky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is this die clash you speak of? I'm still a newbie.
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What is this die clash you speak of? I'm still a newbie.


Occasionally during the minting process, a blank planchet doesn't get inserted properly and the dies actually contact each other instead of a planchet. In this instance, features of one die can be transferred to the other, and then those transferred features get struck into the next few coins minted. This could be a small or a large number, depending on the strength of the transfer. This is a "die clash."

VAM-4B shows transferred features around the lips on the obverse, and the bottom rear of the cap. It's the only place you see them, and that's rather odd because other reverse features transfer far more easily than those. Clashing around the lips is usually a sign of a very strong clash, and one would expect other features to have been transferred as well.
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I see a little web between her bottom lip and her chin, and two little hairs between the lips. This, I can only really see with my pocket microscope. Is this what you are talking about?
I really don't see anything obviously different.
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That's precisely what I'm talking about.

Have a look at the detail page at VAMworld:

http://www.vamworld.com/1884-CC+VAM-4B
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Yep, Mine is exactly like that one. Thanks Ddave. That 1895o that was my introduction to this forum is posted along with a few other coins in classic coin grading.
That's the coin that had the pvc on it and you told me to clean it. It seems to have worked well. Thanks.
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Welcome to the exciting world of vamming, Articsparky...
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I like it. I enjoy this much better than Freezing my butt off in the Arctic.
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I like it. I enjoy this much better than Freezing my butt off in the Arctic.


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Although one of the first things I do when I'm home from work is go ice fishing with the kids.
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