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3 Old Chinese Coins | Machine-Struck Replicas

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Can anybody identify these? I have no idea where to start...

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 Posted 01/10/2013  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pics are a bit fuzzy.
Try this website... http://www.sportstune.com/chinese/c...idpage2.html

Steve :)
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 Posted 01/10/2013  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aiglet7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As Steve says the pics are a bit fuzzy. Coin #2 appears to be from the Qing Dynasty. Emperor Mu Tsung 1862-1875. A Tung Chih Chung Pao coin from the Board of Revenue Mint - Peking.
Coin #3 appears to be also from the Qing Dynasty. Emperor Hsuan Tsung 1821-1850. A Tao Kuang Tung Pao from the same mint as coin #2.
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Thank you guys! I need to get a scanner so I can start scanning my coin collection but as of now all I have is my iPhone to take pics of the coins. I'll try that website Steve! Thanks
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 Posted 01/11/2013  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To be honest I think they are all modern reproductions - the kind you get in "good luck" sets etc.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aiglet7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm curious, Bacchus, what makes you think they are modern reproductions?
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It's the fabric of their make up - the rather thin lettering, the poorly formed, or non existant, rims, the colour.
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During that time period in China's history coin production was tied to a silver standard. Because a great amount of silver was leaving the country as a result of the opium trade the casting of bronze coins exceeded their face value. As result those coins produced tended to be smaller and of poorer quality than those from the earlier part of the century. This may account for the appearance of those coins illustrated in this topic. But without seeing them 'in-hand' we shall never know for sure.
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Nobody could be 100% certain from those pictures - so I'll have to settle for just being 99% certain :)
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 Posted 01/14/2013  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carlosguardia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The collection I have is an inheritance and I've found a few more of these in the collection and I must agree with Bacchus, I'm 99% certain they must be reproductions. They're all different but they have the exact same diameter and the square whole in all of them is exactly the same and they seem to weigh the same. Don't know much about these type of coins but I'm inclined to believe they're reproductions. Thank you all for the help!
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#1 (Kuang hsu) should be milled. The others, like the Dao Guang (#3) should be cast. Nearly identical Qing cash are common to find and are not a determinant of whether or not they are fake.
Look for a lip on the edge of cast coins which would give away a struck counterfeit of a cast coin. Look for casting beads on a cast counterfeit of a milled coin.
Just to add to the fun, the same coin from the same mint can be observed in differing diameters.
All should be brass (mix used was Cu, Sn, Pb in varying proportions). Cast fakes I have seen in various metals, typically made for crafters and souveneirs. Even if real the ones you have posted are worth no more than 50 cents each, less in resale. I have several hundred Qing cash sitting in a drawer at home.
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Thank you jcmworld. The cash value of the coins is not the primary importance now, I just want to make a catalog of what I have. I'm quite sure these are all reproductions but when I get a chance I'll get a scan of all of them and post it here so I can get another opinion.
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 Posted 01/14/2013  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#2 and #3 are definitely reproductions, with the distinctive "slanted Manchu" script on the reverse which I have commonly seen on machine-struck copies. #1 also does not quite look right, but the pics are too fuzzy for me to be sure.
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I'm afraid they're all modern replica.
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