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Hello. I am a mostly CND collector and my husband doesn't collect at all . He has just grown an extreme fondness for Kennedy half dollars and last time we were in the US I bought him a dansco book that can hold proof issues as well... I had asked him how he would like to fill it and he prefers silver over clad...I'm impressed with his choice, my only issue is that I am unsure of how your mint sets are constructed down there..

Can I get the post 1970 P and D as proof finish or just proof like/BU and can I get them as silver or are they all clad?

What is the cheapest way to buy these? Sets, singles.

The only ones I am interested in getting is the State Quarters in silver.. So for those years I figured sets would be best...thanks.

As well,,what purity are the silver sets, and what denominations are minted silver in them?
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01/12/2013 11:49 am
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 Posted 01/12/2013  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many questions so lets start from the top.

Proof issues are only available from the San Francisco mint "s" after 1968. From 1968 to 1970 all "s" mint halves are 40% silver and all proof. There are also 40% "s" mint halves dated 1776-1976 in both proof and BU. In 1970 there was a 40% BU "d" half in a mint set but no "p" issues in that year.

Starting in 1971 until 1991 all halves were made in copper-nickle (excepting the prior mentioned 1776-1976 "s" silver 40%) Starting in 1992 there have been 90% silver halves issued annually in a silver proof sets, and there is also a copper-nickle proof set resulting in two proof Kennedy halves each year from 1992 to date.

As your husband is interested in silver (and your interest in silver quarters) I would suggest acquiring the silver proof sets issued from 1992 to date. in them the half, dime and quarters are 90% silver. The copper-nickle halves can be purchased separately but you may want to get them from mint sets (both p and d) The copper-nickle "s" can be found separately or in the yearly proof sets.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Muddler

So you are saying I won't find any silver from1971-1991 other than the 1976? That is to bad...

What is the difference between a silver proof set, silver premier proof set, silver prestige proof set?
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From what I can see the difference from a silver proof set and a premier proof set is merely the packaging from the mint; the coins I believe are the same. The prestige proof set will contain a commemorative coin either a half or dollar from that respective year. I think also that the prestige set only contains copper-nickle for the half, quarter and dime but may have silver for those after 1992. I have no prestige sets and they have not been issued since 1997 that I know of.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add linxlvr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just finished a set and I have to say the info Muddler provided is spot on. If you do need to do the clads, the sets are pretty cheap for a lot of the years.

The PCGS slabs clad proofs of some issues are so low on ebay that you can pick up PR69's for less than the clad set also.

ebay completed sales are a great way to fine tune those decisions as they are very common, and so have little fluctuation day to day on ebay.

The silver sets may seem a little high, but remember the value in spot silver, and you realize the premium is very low on many, and on some non existent.

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 Posted 01/12/2013  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you bought him the Dansco that holds the proofs, it will have a spot for the silver proof and the clad proof from 1992 to date. Except for the aforementioned 1976 aberations, all proofs from 1971-1991 are clad. You pretty much just fill the hole with what it calls for, the only decisions you have are about the grade of the coin, you get no choice on composition if you follow the labels on the holes.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cheapest for most of the P and D issues is going to be to ask a CCF roll hunter to watch for BU coins and sell them to you for face plus shipping. 90% of the 1971 to 2000 ones show up in great condition regularly in rolls. I'ld be happy to help.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJB17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a set of 2003 P&D clad halves up on ebay right now... nudge, nudge. Here's the link.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everyone pretty much covered it. Its a big series and took me 2 years to complete it. https://goccf.com/t/136025 You and your husband should enjoy completing it.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
muddler pretty much explained it all.

I am not really sure what Dansco album you have. you said


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I bought him a dansco book that can hold proof issues as well


I am hung up on the words "can hold proof issues as well"
It must be just your way of saying things ... I am thinking you have the Dansco 8166 that has holes for proofs and SMS coins.

The two Dansco albums I have, one is for "P and D" coins, the second has holes for proof issues and the BU "P and D" coins.

The first album was easy for me to complete, but the second album, with the proof coins has been a challenge.

Many of the early mints sets have been picked over, which for me makes it hard to find the 68 and 69 BU coins in good grades. Also for 65,66 and 67 there are only SMS sets, so that makes it hard to find the BU/non SMS, coins for those years. Then there is buying the 1992 to date silver proof sets, for just the half dollar gets expensive. I guess you can see I like to fill my Danscos from sets, but there are chances you can find the coins individually at a better price.

I would like to say that when these sets are completed with nice grade coins, they are very nice sets to have in your collection. I recently seen a completed BU/proof Dansco sell for $1200 at a local coin shop.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GR58
I do have the 8166 album. So when the book says for the 1965,66,67 regular and SMS, what does that mean? Are they differentiated by mint mark as well?
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Here are my suggestions:
1. Take the time to look for a Red Book by Whitman Publishing. It will explain almost all the things you need to know about US coins.
2. Try places on line if you doh't have access to a coin store, hobby store, coin show for such books and coins.
3. Keep away from places like ebay unless you know what your doing and buying.
4. Do not purchase sets if you only want certain separate coins. However, individual coins from sets usually cost more.
5. There is a place called Wizard Coin Supply on the internet that many coin people say is one of the better, cheaper, most complete places to buy coins and stuff.
6. Get to know the real prices and values of each coin prior to buying them. Many use a web a web site called Numismedia.
7. Again such questions as Silver content, availability in dates, Minted in sets only, etc. are easily found in that Red Book.
8. As a just FYI only, you may want to check out the Whitman web site for other possible books and coin related items. Not a good place to buy from though since they prefer to sell to dealers in bulk. Individual sales are expensive.
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Coin chick, no there are no mint marks to differentiate the SMS coins. The Special Mint Sets were the mints experiments with new proof processes and the move of proof issues from the Philly mint to the San Fran mint in 68. So while there is no mm to help, SMS coins are going to look very much like a proof coin. Very shiny mirror like fields, and if you get lucky cameo devices. The regular bu coins will be simply pretty business strike coins.

If you get the coins in the SMS sets, then you know for sure it is SMS. Otherwise find a dealer you trust and they will be able to get them for you.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In 65, 66 and 67 the mint did not make proof sets (or mint sets), but did make what they called a "Special Mint Set" that was proof-like. These coins have no mint marks and are distinguished only by having a brighter, better quality strike.
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Man, I hate it when someone answers at the same time as me. I really need to learn to type faster. Yeah, what smokeriderdon said.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So for the 65,66,67 you guys are saying that I can get an SMS set but any other kennedys that year are all out in circulation? No other types of sets to pull from?
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