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 Posted 01/12/2013  6:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
1871 IHC listed in a lot on ebay uk - item 140904285911

Was quite excited thinking the eBayer may not know what he has in what appears a decent grade but then googled this
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE...2814550.html

Messaged him for a close up of both sides of the coin but was told hes working and is away from camera and coin at the moment.

Steer clear of this one?
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 Posted 01/12/2013  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Link.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140904285911?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html%3F_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=140904285911&_rdc=1
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 Posted 01/12/2013  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for adding the url.
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01/12/2013 6:44 pm
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Think he caught his mistake and erased his post. Lol!
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 Posted 01/12/2013  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeah sorry bout that....

without a better pic it is tough to say. The rest of the coins are common. I would not go for it without close ups...a little beyond my "give it a shot" price...
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 Posted 01/12/2013  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Think he caught his mistake and erased his post. Lol!


Saw that too lol.

Nice catch, how did you find this listing :) ?
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 Posted 01/12/2013  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I regularly trawl through the random lots on ebay, a lot of US stuff gets overlooked in them.

If this was in single figures i'd have given it a shot but not at the price it is now. From a bit of research it seems 1870, 71 & 72 have quite a lot of fakes.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, the date looks odd. The two 1's don't appear to be the same
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 Posted 01/12/2013  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the time I looked it showed a replica coin, so maybe he has seen the error of his ways.
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Dates were quite particular on many IHCs, and they varied in size and style over the years. This date does not look right to me. Nor does the color of the coin. This is not really how these pieces toned, but it is how the fake Chinese ones toned.

I'm familiar with the Chinese website that sells these pieces. They are good enough and are close enough with design diagnostics to fool most people with the smaller pictures they have. In hand, these cast copies look much more fake. The surfaces are all wrong and when looked at under magnification, you realize all minute detail is basically mush, and not struck at all, even in high grades.

They are scary though. Especially coin designs that don't have many small details and/or are genuinely known to be poorly struck, I would consider them pretty good fakes.
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 Posted 01/15/2013  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This ended up selling for $230, that's an expensive piece of Chinese tat.
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 Posted 01/15/2013  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coins4fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A good lesson to buy slabbed coins for a small premium (insurance) instead of winding up with a possible Chinese counterfeit.
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lol
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