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Plugs For Unneeded Holes In Dansco Albums

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 Posted 01/22/2013  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
billymac,

I was looking for hole punches, but now I think I might try just sliding swatches of the pleather in front of the windows even for partial rows that are filled. I have an idea of how to do it nicely (sandwich between two windows and remove the outer window), but I'll have to see what the pleather samples look like first. This one looks the most promising from the screen image:

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but I ordered several similar to try to find the best match. If one of the samples looks good, I will order a yard or two and do some experimenting. If I decide I need some circle punches, I found a couple of recommendations from the scrapbooking community, but I'm not so sure I will need those.

Here is what a Casio Label-It label maker label looks like (Look for "Weak D" under 1922).

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 Posted 01/23/2013  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billymac11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I actually do like the pleather idea to simply obliterate the hole as if it had never been there and may incorporate that into my projects. But let's not make any references to scrapbooking - my wife might make fun of me....

And the label-it looks absolutely fine. It keeps it looking "professional". After all, these albums cost a boatload of money (in my world at least!) and they need to look "just right" after the investments in the actual coins.
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 Posted 01/23/2013  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One of my reasons for not using Dansco. I really don't understand why they don't take the time to make an Album with the amount of slots actually required for that series. Whitman, Littleton, Intercept Shield, US Mint, Harris all seam to be able to make the correct amount of slots per series. One simple solution has already been mentioned. Use a Dansco page to make the round slots required to fill empty slots. Try a coin show or coin store for an old, beat up, used Dansco. The only real problem now would be how to make a round plug to fill those slots. Cutting one out with a scissors may be possible. I'll just stick to as many Whitman Albums as possible. No extra slots on any page.
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 Posted 01/23/2013  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Carl,

Cutting a plug from a scrap page could easily be done with an arch punch that is used to cut leather, gasket material, etc. But if you cut the plug out, you will have a piece of pleather that goes over the top window, then a cardboard slug that goes between the windows, then another piece of pleather that goes outside the bottom window. If pleather is covering the windows, why bother putting the slug in? Then I thought, why even cut the pleather to fit inside the hole? Just make it big enough to slide behind the desired holes, in front of the window, and there is no need for any adhesive. If I need to add more ports later, all I have to do is trim the pleather inserts to expose more ports.

Why would I need to add more ports? If they redesign the dime and put a 90% silver version in the Mint Set one year but release a clad coin into circulation, similar to what they did with the 95% copper Lincoln, I can add that circulation coin that is different from the one in the Mint Set.

I agree that it's annoying when albums with an end point (like Lincoln Wheats) have additional ports, but an open-ended series, like Roosevelt dimes, should have additional ports for future issues. The project I'm working on is using blank pages to create what I want, so I can't expect the number of ports to be accurate.

I looked at Whitman albums and I like the ability to buy the gold lettering to make your own pages. I just don't like the break point for pennies. I prefer to change albums at the end of Wheats. The Whitman Nickels album breaks at 2003, which makes as much sense as 2004 or 2005, but it has blank holes at the end just like Dansco. If I attempted this project with Whitman albums I would face exactly the same problem, except I would be searching for blue material instead of beige, and I would use the Whitman gold lettering instead of a label maker.
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 Posted 01/23/2013  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
billymac,

I agree that the albums are expensive. I plan to noodle the coins from circulation, so I'm looking at $67.58 in coins and I've already spent $122.03 on albums, pages, and album covers, and $10.15 ordering pleather samples. Assuming one of them is a good match, it will cost about $15 to $20 to get a yard of material shipped to me. I have plenty of clear labeling tape because I just bought another two-pack recently, but I'll probably burn through half a cartridge and they are almost $20 each.

I hate spending more on albums than coins, but I want it to look professional and I already have Dansco for Wheat Pennies and Nickels, plus a 7070. (Everything else is in Eagle albums).
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Personally, I would get a coin of the same series and lathe down the faces to plug the hole with. Shiny and professional if done properly - sort of like making your own coin blank.

Could be hard with silver as you'd have to wreck a silver coin - perhaps a clad issue lathed down and plated with zinc could work (this is really easy to achieve at home).
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 Posted 01/23/2013  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I must say there have been a LOT of very interesting ideas expressed, and I appreciate all of them! It has helped me think more clearly about what I am trying to accomplish and I believe that I now have a plan. The evaluation materials are on order and I should know by next week if I'm ready to purchase a yard or two of the material that best meets my needs. If nothing looks good, it's back to the drawing board, but if this works, I may be able to document a way to easily modify Dansco pages to eliminate unwanted ports. Stay tuned!
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 Posted 01/24/2013  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Personally, I would get a coin of the same series and lathe down the faces to plug the hole with. Shiny and professional if done properly - sort of like making your own coin blank.

Of course then may as well use a washer. If you checked out some of the larger hardware stores, you would see a large variety of sizes. And also a large variety of thicknesses.

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Carl,

Cutting a plug from a scrap page could easily be done with an arch punch that is used to cut leather, gasket material, etc. But if you cut the plug out, you will have a piece of pleather that goes over the top window, then a cardboard slug that goes between the windows, then another piece of pleather that goes outside the bottom window.

Good points. I forgot that cutting out such a plug would make it as large, thickness wise, as the page and not allowing the plastic slide to slide. Could be done but then it would have to sort of jump over the plug. Another problem is just how many people just happen to have a arch punch?
I almost wonder about the usage of a washer. Then cut out a piece of material from a extra page, just the top and bottom if able to remove the paper from the slotted cardboard. Glue it to the washer.
This would make a same colored, same looking material as the original page. Could be done with almost any Album as long as an extra page can be found easily.
Not sure but if someone could find something like washers without the hole, then one could sort of make a one look like the page. If you go to a Walmart or hobby type place, they have a large selection of small bottles of paint. Take a small piece of Album material with you and compare to those bottles. Paint the metal plug, if you can find one, to match the page.
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 Posted 01/24/2013  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Carl,
What you are describing is exactly the thought process I went through at first! I finally decided that finding dowel rods of the correct diameter would be the best answer since I have a mitre saw with a laser guide so I can cut thicknesses the size of coins. Then all I had to do was find a paint that closely matched the color of the album page and that would be the answer.
But then I started thinking about "blanking out" the ports from the OUTSIDE of the windows. There is only a thin layer of fabric outside the windows, so cutting circles should be easy. But then I thought, why cut circles at all?!? Why not cut a piece of matching fabric larger than the port and slide it behind the opening but in front of the window.
I hope to get the material samples soon to test my theory!
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 Posted 01/26/2013  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billymac11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lars, my thinking was leading me to the idea of sliding just the paper-thin piece of pleather material inside the page but over the plastic window. Seems easy-easy and clean and neat.
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 Posted 01/26/2013  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Billymac,
That is exactly the plan!
I received the albums yesterday.
I have samples of pleather ordered to find the best match.
I have already done a preliminary test with a thin piece of cardboard and it looks promising.
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 Posted 01/26/2013  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mixed results. The 6 samples I received today were from an upholstery factory. One of the colors was close, but the thickness and tackiness were a problem. I dismantled one of the surplus pages I had and was able to create exactly the effect I was looking for in my Wheat penny album, so I know it can be done. The problem is the larger expanses where scraps from spare pages won't work. I have another sample coming from a fabric vendor, so we shall see.
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For my Large Cent and IHC Danscos, I bought a white cardboard box from OfficeDepot, and just circled a coin, and cut it out. I then wrote the information on it like "1877 IHC PCGS VG08" on the outside, and plugged it under the slide.
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 Posted 02/07/2013  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I finally found a PERFECT solution for blocking out ports on a Dansco page, but it gets pricey if you want to block out very many:

https://goccf.com/t/140999
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