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I happened to be looking at some Yuan cash the other day. The copies are so old that you just can't tell the real from the fake sometimes but they're hundreds of years old.


So would these be considered 'fakes' in the way Barbarous Romans are or are they very old fakes produced for collectors way back in the past
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Old fakes. They never circulated as lega tender. Radiates were used as currency.
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Incredible - thanks for the info.

Getting very interested in Cash coins atm.
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Bobby - assume you mean the "limes" denarius?

This article expands on it - but there seems to be a reasonable case to be made that they circulated on the fringes of empire.

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/nu...s%20denarius

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Wow great input and a lot of knowledge here, thank you.

Tokenmast, I meant Mark Hofmann, not Harman (too much CSI ). Mark Hofmann was a really good forger of Mormon stuff and spark erosion guru.

I was kind of wondering if a group such as PNG put something out like:

Source of fakes:

Country_____________Comments
Bulgaria:_10% of total__Many Ancients
Lebanon:__8% of total__US gold
China:____44% of total__Mexican colonial
USA:______24% of total__US collectible
Etc.

ebay probably has numbers to support the country source of the sellers of fakes, but country of manufacture?

Using the word fakes to avoid counterfeit/forgery semantics.

Has anyone seen something empirical in this regard?
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Bobby - assume you mean the "limes" denarius?


Not specifically - just wasn't sure if the Yuan in question were Unofficial or Semi-official circulating coins or like the Chinese faking of modern US coins aimed directly at a past collecting market.

I must admit being a beginner spotting fake casts of Cash coins seems near impossible to me. With Romans at least they were struck and had 'art' on them which can aid identification of more modern reproductions. I'm guessing its quite a specialist skill.
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