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 Posted 01/23/2013  2:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hondo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I bought this coin raw a year or so ago for around $10. I just loved the toning:

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It wouldnt fit into my Cameo Proof Kennedy set, just because I have a higher grade for this year. However, I wanted to keep the coin and I like my pre 1970 proofs to be safely kept in slabs. Regardless of grade, I was going to keep it.

Sent it off and heres what came back (sorry for cell phone pics, better pictures tonight):

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Had no reason to believe it would get a Cameo grade with the reverse toning, but hey, what do I know.

It will live in my "Toned Proof" collection with this guy:

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Would have thought the Franklin would be Cameo before the JFK, but again, what do I know!

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 Posted 01/23/2013  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add baysinger626 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice! Is it just the picture or is there a square on the reverse of the '69?
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 Posted 01/23/2013  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its a square.
Im guessing someone had it in an album for many years and maybe it was a small piece of tape, or a tab, or something of the sort.
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 Posted 01/23/2013  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Hondo

those are beauts
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 Posted 01/23/2013  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xZACKx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing tone.
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NathanASE's Avatar
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 Posted 01/23/2013  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome toning! That square is something else!
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 Posted 01/23/2013  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good for you, but cameo?
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 Posted 01/23/2013  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakeman406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very nice Kennedy love that toning thanks for sharing
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muddler, I am with you. As a Cameo proof collector, I think its crazy that they gave it a Cameo grade.
The obverse, sure. Last I checked though, you needed cameo on both sides of the coin, and all I see on the reverse is colors and a square!

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BLadd's Avatar
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 Posted 01/23/2013  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BLadd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
but is is a nice coin.
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 Posted 01/23/2013  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ghost_X1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what makes those so special, I'm  curious
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upstate's Avatar
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 Posted 01/23/2013  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cameo coins in the earlier proof sets are uncommon and therefore special.
My understanding is only the early die states showed Cameo coins (not sure of this)
Some one can chime in and when it happened but somewhere along the line the mint
started etching the die's so that they all have a cameo look and even have developed
a reverse proof where the fields are etched and the devices mirror like.
Hondo, I'm surprised the 1956 didn't get cameo and evidently the Kennedy was graded as such based
on the obverse only. I like the toning on both of them but the square is a little weird :)
The Kennedy is actually quite stunning.
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 Posted 01/23/2013  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dusto5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's gotta be the sweetest Kennedy half I've ever seen!!
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 Posted 01/23/2013  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mailman28 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I actually like the Franklin better but the Kennedy is cool too, that square is crazy
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 Posted 01/23/2013  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse is certainly cameo. How they got that for the reverse is beyond me. But they ARE the best after all, so we all need to blindly accept it.

Hondo, that is an awesome coin dude! John and Ben make a heck of a pair there.
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Maybe its just me but the reverse looks like it would have the same cameo appearance as the obverse without the toning.
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