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Fuzzy Reverse Of A 71 Penny?

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Thanks for finally getting me to pick at the back of that button penny for years I've been searching ebay for a similar one. I got another one...

After the button debacle I got that old itch again so I dug through my old collection and I found this 1971 penny that I held onto. The front is normal but the back is sort of fuzzy. Was this done at the mint or is this weird ware.

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Its hard to tell from your pictures, but a Grease Filled Die was the first thing that came to mine.
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grease filled die, huh? Weird. How does grease get in there? Does it happen a lot?
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It might be worth getting some good pics on this one.
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Could be a late die state.
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Could ask Fuzzy, or better yet, get a little focus, please.
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Aye from the fuzzy photos, I'm guessing the fuzziness is also a grease-filled die.

It's quite common (gunk getting stuck in the recesses of the die), and only commands any sort of premium if it is very pronounced. My favorite example is my "Connecticut Charter Shrub" :-) :

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I suspect the reverse face was struck through a very thin, split-before-strike planchet.
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I suspect the reverse face was struck through a very thin, split-before-strike planchet


Probably cheating to agree with Mike Diamond, but well, I agree with Mike Diamond :)

Also, I would keep that guy. That's one of the more interesting error types you find.
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Thanks so much for your expertise, now I remember why I started collecting coins. I forgot for a while but I am getting excited again!

Here are some more pictures I took. I am using my iPad's camera.

There is a sharp raised ridge around the obverse.



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The obverse has a sharp strike and the finned rim is a clue that there might have been something else in the coining chamber besides this planchet, similar finning(excess metal extruding between the die and collar) can also be seen on coins struck on overweight planchets. A die cap or split planchet in the coining chamber along with another normal planchet could create the same finning scenario.
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Is this maybe a capped die strike? Is this what you mean when you say "very thin, split-before-strike planchet"?
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Hello Mr. Biokemist, are you saying it's sort of a mystery?
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I would go with a die cap as Bio mentioned being possible.
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sorry, but we really need clearer pictures, or maybe a scanned image
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Here is one from my scanner.

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