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I just used Verdi-care on this coin. Would you consider it VF or XF? There was a glob of verdigris that appears to be coming off just using distilled water and Verdi-care.   Edited by buddy16cat
01/23/2013 11:49 pm
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Based on the single pic....F15 details
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Details what? I know it isn't harshly cleaned unless you consider BadThad's Verdicare harshly cleaned. I know that the coin shop I bought it from sells original coins. Here is the reverse. I do realize that these posts are subjective and based on opinions. The "LIBERTY" and the lines above and below are separate and there are lines near the side burn area. Edited by buddy16cat
01/23/2013 11:50 pm
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Nice coin. I'm no expert but I agree with amida's grade. F because of the wear in the hair above the ear and details because of the corrosion. It's also a little dinged up around the rims but otherwise a nice example.
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After seeing the reverse.....I stand by my opinion. Details....corrosion. Do not get me wrong it is a descent exanple but it is what it is imo.
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01/23/2013 11:52 pm
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Nice coin. I'm no expert but I agree with amida's grade. F because of the wear in the hair above the ear and details because of the corrosion. It's also a little dinged up around the rims but otherwise a nice example. In the Fine grade the "LIBERTY" and the top line of the coronet are blended but that is not evident here. There is some Verdigris left on the coin and corrosion underneath where it was. Of course I have to let it completely dry. I have to read about the hair above the ear wear and what grade that is associated with. I know the difference between the F and VF grade is "LIBERTY" and the line above it. They are blended on F-15. |
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I noticed the hair above the ear on the F-15 grade also doesn't match this coin.
The hair above the ear has lines on this coin where on the F-15 grade, the hair is worn smooth.
As I mentioned, the "LIBERTY" and line above also doesn't match on this grade. Maybe VF Details, I bought it to use Verdi-care on.
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That is ok though, I know that grading can be really subjective. It is my opinion that the details are around VF+.
There is most likely some corrosion underneath where the verdigris was and according to NGC website a details
grade is assigned when corrosion is sever or unattractive. I don't consider the corrosion on this coin severe or necessarily
unattractive but who knows what graders consider. I should let this coin dry and see what happens. It is still a little wet from Verdi-care.
There was a large lump of verdigris between 9 and 10 O-clock.
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01/24/2013 12:16 am
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Grading can be subjective, especially when basing it on pictures - and small ones at that. I'm seeing wear along the brow line, at the top of the head and in the line above the L in Liberty. There are also dings along the rim that I personally wouldn't expect to see in a VF or better coin. That's what I'm basing my grade on. The corrosion is, at least in my opinion, distracting and would give it a details grade. The metal looks pretty damaged to me. Verdi care is great and can help conserve coins but it's not going to restore metal that's been eaten away.
You asked for opinions and that's mine. Then again, you have the coin in hand an a strong opinion of the grade so go with VF details if you prefer.
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I am wondering if I should have soaked this coin longer in Verdicare? Just did it for a couple minutes but had drizzled some previously on the spot between 9 and 10 O'clock. Got a good price on it I think, got this one a for $12 and another with a lot more verdigris for $8. Is that a good price?
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Looks VF20 details to me.
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I could see this getting a VF details grade. The rim dings are a big issue, bigger than the verdigris in my opinion, but this is still a nice looking coin for what you payed for it.
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I could see this getting a VF details grade. The rim dings are a big issue, bigger than the verdigris in my opinion, but this is still a nice looking coin for what you payed for it. Yes, I didn't see those rim dings on the reverse. I was mostly looking at the details on the front the verdigris I can remove with verdi-care. I asked "how much for the coin with the verdigris on it?". I got this one for $8 but maybe I should treat it again. He stated it was rough.  |
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Nice example, too bad about the corrosion and rim bumps.
Amida17 thanks for posting that article on eac grading. Good read......
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