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Copper Separation In Jefferson Nickel?

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 Posted 01/25/2013  02:31 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add johnny676767 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Have you seen copper separate? I found this while CRH. Under a 10x loupe the copper colored areas do not appear raised from the surface. Whatever it is, it looks really cool. Sorry about the pic quality.

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 Posted 01/25/2013  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BLadd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, it is really cool.
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 Posted 01/25/2013  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks cool.I am no pro but my first thought is environmental damage.
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I've got one just like that somewhere. It's much darker, dubbed the "halloween nickel".
As John suggested, maybe enviro; but I dont know how it would pattern like that.
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Looks like marble, a cool effect, environmental damage I would guess.
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A nickel is struck on an alloy planchet, there is nothing to separate that would reveal copper. Your coin has suffered from environmental damage.
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100%. All this scientific jive talking means nothing on a coin that is not clad.
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A nickel is struck on an alloy planchet, there is nothing to separate that would reveal copper. Your coin has suffered from environmental damage.


I was reading an article about "improperly annealed planchets" a long while ago, and I believe the author stated that dark grey and red copper, "improperly annealed" nickel planchets were the result of copper atom migration to the surface of the planchet during prolonged exposure to heat. I just thought it was interesting.
I agree with your assesment though, as even an improperly annealed planchet wouldn't have this type of pattern and color combination.
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I would love to have an example of this coin... I found a Canadian error quite similar to it (1982 Cu-Ni planchet), and I intend to test it with the SEM. Are these common with US-5cent coins?
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How does the XRF differ from the SEM?
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How does the XRF differ from the SEM?


If you have the digital prowess to be here, then you already know how to use Google (or Google Scholar)...
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I think this topic is

The only effect that I know of due to an improper
alloy mix is a black beauty jefferson. A true one.
Even if a nickel looked like copper and was caused
by an annealing process deviation I do not see any out there
in slabs etc. or selling for some insane value.
Slabbed beauties do exist though and they sell.
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