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You Against NGC Again 1864 2 Cent

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After the last one lets see if we can assign a grade to this one. NGC got it closer than the previous example.

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MS-63 RB

I don't know this series well.
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I would say MS63 as well
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MS62RB looks like the holder is pretty beat up, not that that affects the coin, I see a few carbon spots present which are par for the course in 2 centers.

A pretty weak strike that and a nick in the shield keep it out of the 63 range for me. It looks to be a pretty late die state with some interesting die cracks on the reverse. A tad weakly struck or maybe that's just the die errosion I'm seeing at the rims, especially at the date.
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MS-60 RB
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What the heck, MS61 RB.
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I am going to guess they called it MS-65 RB. I don't see very many marks especially in the focal areas. The luster seems slightly weaker than the previous example. Appears RB though I think at the lower end of the range. Based on what I see, I am inclined to think it is at least a MS-64 RB. A very nice coin!
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MS-64 RB with a pretty poor strike.
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MS63RB IMO.
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The slab makes some of the details look mushy and the scratches on the plastic make it difficult to determine whether marks are on the coin or the slab, but I'm going to take a shot at MS64RB. I think the marks that I'm seeing are on the slab.

Is this an RPD-011? It's difficult to see the doubling in the date, but the reverse die cracks seem to match. I am trying to learn more about this series. You have inspired me!
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Good eye Mom I was wondering if anyone would go for the variety

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I see the doubling now. Thanks, Richard!
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NGC Called this one MS65 RB
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I was quite off probably due to the weaker strike, I sure didn't think this would hit 65 at a TPG.
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That actually makes sense, since I think NGC overgrades. Did you agree with the 65 grade?
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