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Pillar of the Community
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Nice coin and clash the 8 shows up good under her chin is there two visible or am I imaging two
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Are you sure that the excess material is metal? It doesn't look like bronze and there are lots of instances of outside material getting between the dies that causes either strike-throughs or else squishing (technical term) the material into the planchet (usually pieces from delaminations or crappy planchets from previous coins).
It is hard for me to tell from a computer screen and without it in-hand, I can't tell you for sure. What is more mystifying to me is the apparent brittleness of the bronze planchet in the area of the extraneous material ...shown by all the minute cracks and semi-porosity. Is a poor alloy mix causing all of this? It would be nice to XRF the coin and see what the alloy actually is. If it's just normal bronze, then it has to do with the annealing/quenching sequences.... ("it" meaning all the tiny cracks)
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The lower photos look like a retained lamination peel to me...
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Nice find!
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Rest in Peace
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Nice coin tfred...looks to be in pretty good shape.
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Compared to other graded coins in my collection, it is no less then MS64. As usual, it looks better in hand then in the photos .
Whats with all of the tiny cracks and broken bits in the last picture. I'm not sure of the exact coining process, but in my mind I picture the die crumbling and breaking apart in that spot of the die. (my mind is pretty simple)
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01/30/2013 12:53 pm
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Valued Member
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Without the coin in hand it's hard to tell but I think SPP is correct. I don't believe it to be a die issue, I think it is a planchet issue.
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Amazing coin!! WHat is the value with the error? is it worth a lot more than a normal large cent of that year.
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Pillar of the Community
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So, if I send this off to ICCS, will this flaw negatively affect the grade. Or will it be accuratly graded and the error/flaw noted?
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It will not affect the grade with ICCS, but you might get the comment "planchet flaw".
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Agree with SPP on the grade and ICCS call. However, eye appeal is key to mint state coins in my opinion. I would pay less for an example with a flaw, regardless of grade.
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Papeldog, I only see one 8, but it is a nice one. The 1 is also partially visible.
"T's a Keeper".
dick
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