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Is This A 1937-D Three Legged Nickel

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This is the pics of I received of the coin for sale. Real or fake?

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The guys who know will probably need clear, closer pictures of the missing leg. I'd love to know too.

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Maybe, but I would also say the spacing of the e plub... helps to determine b/c if I understand correctly it is not as close on the 3 leg as typical nickels.
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The pictures are a bit on the small side for authenticating but from what I can see it looks good so far. The back of the neck and the buffalo's hind leg have that rough, moth eaten appearance. E Plurbius Unum looks like it is separated from the back. Below the belly should be a curved patch of die marks but they may be very faint due to wear.
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I am, tentatively, buying it. Confirm that the mint mark is rotated a but left, and I'll be even happier. Some of these features are not easy to fake.
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What do you mean about the mint mark? If you explain that I will try to get that detail.
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I wonder how many of these have been faked by altering the coin? That is, by removal of the leg.
This is a much easier coin altering task than most, to achieve a good fake.
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True, but it is hard to fake the other aspects that seperate it
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Here is an image from PCGS about what to look for;

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The "P" and "U" of E Pluribus Unum does not touch the buffalo's back.

There is a noticable weakness on the far right leg

No tooling marks (of course)
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Of the limited tries at faking, that I have seen, there is always evidence of tooling. Need to see it up close.
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oih82w8: That is the sort of imagery we need, thanks for the education.
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I'd say genuine but we need weerdsteev to chime in I think. Also, ANACS would be a good idea.
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Agree wholeheartedly with vermontensium (as usual) this coin looks like a pretty good candidate for a real one. But TPG is always a must, not only for your own piece of mind but a guarantee, I'd go with ANACS if I was collecting or keeping it and PCGS if I planned on selling in the near future.

oih82w8 - great photo linked in your post thanks!


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I also agree. That's a *very* good candidate for a genuine specimen. All the right parts in all the right places.

This is one of the few cases I would recommend the TPG treatment. :-)
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This is *not* an easy one to fool those who know the issue. The airspace between the back and PLURIBUS UNUM is very hard to fake, as is the counterclockwise punch of the mint mark. The back leg is difficult as well. You don't even have to look at the "missing" front leg past seeing it there - that is not the "smoking gun" attribution.
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