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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I came across this coin which is for sale at an online auction company. I'm wondering whether or not it is real. The obverse wear is very uneven especially with regards to the stars. On the reverse the lettering looks more like that of a poured coins as opposed to one that is die struck. There are other issues as well like the '2' in the date and the obverse gouges that look more like missing metal than gouges. Opinions?   |
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Moderator
 United States
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There is obvious PMD which has damaged the mm as well. If I had to guess, it's an S. Looks to be remnants of serifs. Unless real cheap, I'd pass. swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That is a tough call.  with vermontensium that there are the remmants of the serifs of the S however the S looks very wide. I would say that this should be a pass unless you get it for a ridiculously low price so if it is not authentic, it would be a good conversation piece of the fish that got away. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ditto "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Germany
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I'm really not an expert, but I have to agree to pass on this. It just has too much damage and is such a low grade. Plus the authenticity is not clear. Save your money for another day.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Thanks everyone. I took a chance (couldn't resist) and put a low ball bid on this coin and did end up winning it for a "ridiculously low price". Including BP I paid $6.60. Either I got a super good deal or I'm out the price of breakfast in the morning :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 For $6.60 I would have taken the chance as well (and I am extremely conservative). When you get it, please post updated pictures. From the pictures you posted, it also looked as if it was struck off center. I wonder if it really is - that might explain the wider S. Holy moly, I am crossing my fingers on this one! |
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Germany
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6.60 is not much to gamble with. Getting to examine the coin in hand may be a good learning experience, at the least.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Does it look like THIS one ? $6.60 would seem a pretty good deal Edited by denco7
02/08/2013 9:21 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd pay $6.60 even if it were no doubt a fake. :-)
But aye, by the *pictures* I'd lean genuine but a lot of damage.. a lot a lot.
In-hand examination might go in either direction.
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United States
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$6.60...you did well even with the PMD. swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I have other business near the auction house so will be picking it up in person on Monday. When that happens I'll take some better pictures, weigh it, do the magnet test etc., and post the results. Thanks again everyone.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I got the coin home today. At 4.96 grams, the weight was a little less than it should be but I'm thinking wear might account for it being slightly (.04 grams) out of spec. Diameter and thickness both tested fine and it did not stick to a magnet. It looks more genuine in hand than pictures can convey, but I've included a couple of enlargements of areas that were mentioned as questionable.   Edited by Peter4805
02/12/2013 02:53 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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4.96 grams is well within spec. Spec is 5 grams +/- .194 grams so it would not be low weight until less than 4.806 grams
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If you feel it looks more genuine in hand then I believe it is most likely genuine. Congratulations on a great pick up!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Very nice find. You can send it in to see if it's real. It looks right but the S is kind of odd.
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Posted 02/08/2013 8:30 pm
