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2011 One Cent..."Mf" No Divide In Leaf

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My friend's (MF) one cent...posting it for her... noticed that the top of the right leaf blends into the left.wondering what kind of error this would be. Thanks.

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I'm no expert, but the horizontal lines make it look as though it was sanded with a fine grit sandpaper. I could be wrong though.
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I agree middross..It does look like that but I've seen others in mint state with this sort of surface. Interesting.
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From what I am seeing and the angles we have to look at,I would be leaning toward a light strike. When I put a 2011 under the glass to compare, I see the entire face of the leaf of your coin is lacking the detail it should have.The horizontal lines cross over the one point and keeps going without any damage. It is hard to make the call, not being able to look at it from a side view so my guess is a little wild.
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A light strike IMO too. I've seen this effect to different degrees on a number of pennies from the 2000's era. None quite as strong as yours, though, change4. Good eye on you and your friend for finding it!
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Found another one and noticed that the direction of the "grain" is in a different direction...same basic error though...Just thought I'd pass this on for interest sake.

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I'm no expert, but the horizontal lines make it look as though it was sanded with a fine grit sandpaper. I could be wrong though.


Hate to bear the bad news, but you are wrong...

Remember that these coins are plated. You just can't "sand" off the devices on plated coins, you would expose the other plating layers or the zinc/steel cores.

If it was a weak strike, the obverse should also the same features... can a picture of the obverse be posted?
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interesting.......the two penny's are showing almost the same Die mark's. Look over the both coins, the marks could almost match up. It's not easy to fake two that good and for what purpose? The lines are true, running both ways?
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Hello...here's the obverse..sorry...should have posted it before.

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Hey dialog_gvf how are you doing ....wondering if you have any ideas about this. I appreciate you looking into this for me SPP and I do appreciate everyone's input. This part of collecting has been a lot of fun for my friend and I and very much enjoy the enthusiasm of all who post...Great pictures too.

Take care
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Hate to bear the bad news, but you are wrong...

Remember that these coins are plated. You just can't "sand" off the devices on plated coins, you would expose the other plating layers or the zinc/steel cores.



So obvious. Even though I am still learning, I new that this is a plated coin and as such only has a thin layer of copper, but didn't think things through before I answered. I used my eyes but not my brain.

Are lines like this typical of a weak strike?
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 Posted 02/11/2013  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add change4thebetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi middross

I thought exactly the same thing when I first saw this and other odd things through our coin searches...but my friend has had a more optimistic view of errors and has proven me wrong time and time again...I call her the "Wayne Gretzky" of error hunting...she has a "good eye" for this ..amazing...(no Gordie Howe hat tricks with her though)
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Just found a third one.

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Are they all the same composition (magnetic or non-magnetic)? One would think that the steel cored strikes would be more prone to being weaker strikes....
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Good-day SPP

The three here are all non-magnetic.
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