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I would be very apprehensive about believing the complete description or grading of this vendor. The first thing to check would be his scale. The '58/"59 cents were struck in London on planchets that were bronze, not copper, and the same diameter as the Brit half penny.... but 1/3 thinner, because the Canadian powers-that-be wanted 100 of them to equal a pound and 12 of them together to measure a foot. People didn't like the thin coins, so in 1876, they went back to the same dimensions as the Brit half penny .. but that weight(5.67g) is still well over 30% less than this auction's purported weight. I would believe this only when photos of the 2 scale weights were shown and a comparative thickness sideview of the 3 coins taken .. a '59, a '76, & this one. Of course, I may be wrong because everything on the internet has got to be true and every ebay vendor is knowledgeable, honest and true.
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Its asyn, I wouldn't risk it.
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Exactly my point, Noah's. Before I tempered my post, I was going to warn folks that anything even questionable directed toward the vendor usually results in being block from future offerings. Any ebay auction needs to be carefully studied from all angles, especially from some specific vendors. BTW, the 1838-1860 Brit half pennies weighed 9.1-9.5 grams and were pure copper. After 1860, they went to bronze .. the same alloy as the Canadian cent. The "claimed" 7.39g auction coin is nowhere close to the old Brit halfpenny (say 9.3), the Canadian 1859(4.54) or the 1876-1920 Canadian cent and Brit half penny (5.7). A thick heavy planchet .. possible, but improbable.
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I bid on this coin.Asyn,though myopic and optimistic,is more reliable on an item such as this,than 90% of other sellers on ebay.As with any ebay item there is always a risk of disappointment.I felt that with this seller the odds of the coin being a normal weight 1859 are less than 5%,and I put in a bid.I hope the winner is a member here and will post the coin.
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if it goes over $100 I'm going to start belt sanding coins down and soldering them together.
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It sold for $80.00 I buy of this dealer once in awhile but I pay no attention to what he grades the coins every coin he lists are over graded IMO. Sometimes you can get great deals of of him but I am always apprehensive of his so called rare coins.
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I do buy from them as well, but never spend more than $20 or so on one coin.
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