A Diff. Early Contemporary Fake/Counterfeit 1786 Naples 120 Grana

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realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 02/11/2013 6:00 pm 1786 Naples 120 grana (aka a piastra): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Italy-Naple...251225011375 Edited by realeswatcher 02/12/2013 10:02 am Report this Post to the Staff

colonialjohn Pillar of the Community United States 1757 Posts	Posted 02/12/2013 11:57 am Nice contemporary counterfeit of the period. Probably a mercuric silver amalgam wash over a copper or toned brass debased alloy. Unquestionably of the striking period. Too bad the owner thinks its real. First one I have seen of the denomination/type - not that's a big deal as with some countries these CCs don't surface on E-Bay unless by accident or by an astute collector/dealer. I would pay $40 for this piece for my collection. I am finding most Ag or Au washes use mercury to create this Ag/Hg type amalgam surface which after heat/annealing burns off most of the mercury on the surface leaving a nice silver film as in the case of this piece on the obverse (more than the reverse) but XRF analysis always discovers remnants of Hg on the surface "sometimes" at levels of 1-10% but mostly in levels of 0.1 - 1.0%. This type of mercury/metallic compound is not toxic to the touch as these Ag/Hg amalgams are inert. John Lorenzo United States Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 02/12/2013 12:03 pm And then here's a 1796 that the seller seems to think is pattern of some sort: http://www.ebay.com/itm/REGNO-DI-NA...190793298368 Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 02/12/2013 3:29 pm I would even pay a bit more (more b/c of the Naples end of things), but not near his price, which is basically retail ++ for a genuine piece in that shape. I want to say I've seen a few more contemporary forgeries of these later 1700's piastras, but not many. I think I've also seen a few a few of the later 1850's pieces... plus there is a modern Chinese fake of the 1855. Also, there are loads of 1855-dated 20 grana (aka a tari) contemporary ctfeits... Report this Post to the Staff
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A Diff. Early Contemporary Counterfeit 1786 Naples 120 Grana