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 Posted 02/13/2013  9:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I been thinking lately how can I make my own rainbow lincoln cents WITHOUT using cleaners or Chemicals. So today I tried my idea on three coins. 1 out of 3 WORKED! The 2007 Lincoln Cent now has a cool rainbow tone.

I will be testing more of my idea's on coins to create rainbow tone. Since the rainbow tone was made without cleaning and Chemicals does the coin value go up? It's 2007 MS-63.
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 Posted 02/13/2013  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hesgut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zinc coins, unlike say, silver coins, have absolutely no business being a rainbow color IMO. I know a select few get there naturally, but as you've demonstrated, nearly all get there by some unnatural means. After all, pretty much any coin will change multiple colors if subjected to enough heat.

There may be some guy out there that would pay extra for a Zincoln with unnatural tone, but I pity that person. For the record, even if you didn't use chemicals or cleaners, your coins still have an unnatural tone. Most toning connoisseurs (who would not be interested in a Zincoln) would likely be able to recognize what has been done anyway.

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 Posted 02/13/2013  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I heated the coin up dropped it into cold water. I am going to try other ways using heat but different cooldowns. I am going to keep the lincoln as it looks pretty cool. And thanks for your respond.
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yeah, Solotime, you are going down the road of being a coin doctor. Your 2007 MS-63 (if it is slabbed) is now a coin that you shouldn't sell without being a fraud. So, no, the value is now 1 cent.
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 Posted 02/13/2013  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CC9999, your post made me laugh. I'm not trying to scam people. The coin is for me to learn to be a coin doctor. Na, I'm joking. I just wanted to make natural rainbow tone. It can ruin the coin so don't try it on good ones. I going to use my in change coins.

P.s, the coin told me to try it. He said he wants to be pretty
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 Posted 02/13/2013  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have Silver Coins that I have had in my shed for a few years now and they just starting to tone! I'm doing it naturally. I like toned coins but only if natural in its toning.
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 Posted 02/14/2013  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tomtom777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that the natural toning id ok. I don't think subjecting them to chemicals or heat is that way to go. It should be a details grade at that point although may be hard to prove.
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Just remember, another word for toning is corrosion. And you can't ever go back. And at some point, rainbows fade. And that artificially accelerated or induced toning is not natural by any measure, even if some poor sucker buys it and the seller makes a bundle.

Show me an un-toned coin and I'll think it has been well conserved. Show me a toned coin and I'll wonder how much better it looked before it corroded.

Just say no.
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What grates me about this post, and I've seen it with a few newer members to the forum, not just this particular instance with the OP, is they make a pointless stupid thread. spend about 10 seconds writing something, in this case - I'm artificially toning coins with some methods I thought up... now my coin looks awesome... is it worth more money?

This is not numismatics. This is attention seeking and I think if you want to seek attention by displaying bad behavior and ignorance, then maybe there's a better place for it.
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cc99999,

If it's MS63, heated to a red glow, then quenched in water, I doubt it was slabbed at the time.

solotime,

If it was in a slab and you cooked it, that would be cool to see. Let us know when you have your fire sale.

Try quenching in oil. Everybody needs case hardened pennies .
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 Posted 02/14/2013  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cc9999, I have been here for like 90 days. If you don't like this thread why post? I just thought it WAS cool to make my own rainbow tone coins.I just asked if it's worth anything meaning would you want one? I should of added more information in my post. You're right with that.
No matter what I can sell them to people, there will always be someone who wants a rainbow tone coin that wasn't made by Chemicals. I used heat and water. This is okay but not the very best. One of the coins it damaged because I should of been more careful. I will never try this one my real collection coins. Like I said before the coin wasn't a slab. Just some penny I had for a few years and it was looking fine. I don't understand why so much hate on me?

I'm just posting to have fun in this coin community. If you feel this thread is a waste why did you sign up then? This is supposed to be a forum where people share coin photo's, stories, and more nice things. But when we get people like you who woke up on the wrong side of bed and look for a harmless forum member to snap on. That isn't fun or nice when it happens. Just because your day isn't going good don't come and try to put people down and them make feel bad. I collect coins because I like them. I feel good looking at all the coins I have. I try and think of all the years these coins been around with different people. If this thread wasn't allow or if it was to stupid why didn't jbuck or some other forum mod close it? People like you I just never understand. From reviewing this post of yours:


Quote:

What grates me about this post, and I've seen it with a few newer members to the forum, not just this particular instance with the OP, is they make a pointless stupid thread. spend about 10 seconds writing something, in this case - I'm artificially toning coins with some methods I thought up... now my coin looks awesome... is it worth more money?

This is not numismatics. This is attention seeking and I think if you want to seek attention by displaying bad behavior and ignorance, then maybe there's a better place for it.[


I find it pretty offensive. The way you copied my smiley people I used, the part where you put "is it worth more" is really just pushing it. To be realistic I don't know what to say about you....
You make it like you own the forum and can only be what you allow on the forums. Well you don't own it and it's a public forum. So if you want to harass people please go try it in real life to someone else. You'll see what they do about it. I guess over the internet you feel so cool and strong. To say what you really are would get me banned from the forums. But I'm not going to because I don't like to bother people. I never bully people as it's very wrong. Now hopefully tomorrow you'll wake up on the right side of bed and not be so mean to me.
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@solotime.

Granted membership in this forum is not the same as membership in the American Numismatics Association, where there are bylaws governing good behavior. If you cared to be a member of that organization, your act of artificially toning coins and then reselling them violates the dealer bylaw spelled out here:

"To not knowingly handle for resale forgeries, counterfeits, unmarked copies, altered coins or other spurious numismatic merchandise that is not clearly labeled as such."

Also, most of the members on this forum find your alleged behavior of toning cents, making tons of them, and then selling them to be reprehensible. This makes you a coin doctor and I'm sure most of the members here wouldn't want to buy your artificially toned coins. You can get mad at me for calling you out. That's fine. Just know that most serious coin collectors on this forum philosophically would side with me on the matter.

I want people to collect coins and enjoy the hobby... not try to figure out how to make a quick buck on non-suspecting collectors by "adding-value" to coins through artificial means.

I'm just calling you out because you need to be told that this thread and your gameplan of artificially toning coins is outside of the accepted mainstream. with that, I'm done commenting with you about it.
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I'm not a dealer, I'm just a collector. From what I know, you're not allowed to melt coins but you're allowed to: clean, polish, heat them up, and color them.

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Section 331 of Title 18 of the United States code provides criminal penalties for anyone who fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the Mints of the United States. This statute means that you may be violating the law if you change the appearance of the coin and fraudulently represent it to be other than the altered coin that it is. As a matter of policy, the Mint does not promote coloring, plating or altering U.S. coinage: however, there are no sanctions against such activity absent fraudulent intent.


I only got one rainbow toned cent I made. I didn't make others yet. I'm not really going to sell them. I was joking around to see what you say. If they were high demand I would.


But you got to say, it's always fun to test experiments on coins. Just use your coins you get from change. I put the 2007 Lincoln Cent away in my box. I am going to keep it as I like it. The coin was going to be tossed into a roll then taken to the bank. So by changing it's color to rainbow ton he's now being kept inside a holder.
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I have a coin that was "accidentally" toned* via someone having Scotch-taped it to something. When I got it the non-taped side was perfectly normal and the taped side was a bright royal purple. I saved it as a curiosity because, what the heck, purple penny.

As for your coin, however, solotime, I agree with CC and I think this is a dangerous road to travel. It's one thing if you're making, say, rainbow cents to use in jewelry, but the fact that you had this coin graded and chose to destroy it sounds an awful lot to me like those ebay sellers who rave about their "monster toned" Morgans and anybody with eyes can tell it was done with a blowtorch.

Also: if you made this post as a "joke" to "see what people would say," that's called "trolling" on most forums I'm part of and is to be highly discouraged.





*I use this term because I don't think toning is what the original owner, whoever he or she may have been, had in mind, and a brief exposure wouldn't have caused this.
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Since the rainbow tone was made without cleaning and Chemicals does the coin value go up?


That quote was not accompanied by a smiley or any hint that it wasn't a legitimate request on your part. And we've no real basis for evaluating your true intent, since this is just a collection of electrons. Although you've made your intent clear since (which means the dogpile can stop now), the reaction from the membership is understandable.

Personally, I discourage even doing this for experimentation, with no intent of ever offering the coin anywhere. There's too much chance of the coin entering the market somewhere down the road - if one tires of the fun and throws the stuff back into circulation, someone could opportunistically snag them from change and throw them onto ebay.

There's no justification for artificially toning a coin ever.
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There's no justification for artificially toning a coin ever.


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