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Uh Oh! Will The US Cent Go Bye-Bye As Well. OH The Horror!

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The profit is in the resell to collectors - they raise the prices.
You are probably right, the solution is increase prices and the number of collector offerings.

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On the other side of that, eliminating either of those will increase inflation to the consumer - rounding will occur and it will not be down.
Wrong.

If you want to round up, fine, you do that. I will round down because I know I still come out with more profit than if it had been an electronic transaction (because I have to pay the bank a processing fee for those).

I will make sure your customers know that you are ripping them off and that I am not.

Home Depot Canada rounds down. How long do you think Lowe's Canada would get away with rounding up?

By the way, rounding cash sales down already happens in my area.

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All the mint needs to do is increase the coinage amount. Instead of the penny it should now be the 2 cent piect, the nickle be become the 6 cent piece, the dime goes to 11 cent and so forth. With the Bureau of Engraving increasing the bill value accordingly.

There problem solved. Let's move onto the next problem. Any questions?

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jbuck - my point is the prices today as you note don't reflect the rounding - the rounding is done at the register. In a few months, all the products prices will be rounded up before the price lists are displayed.
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The only ones who will be affected favorably (rounding down) will be those who pay by cash. Those who pay by debit or credit card will still be paying to the exact cent. Those who also think that vendors will be rounding down because they are nice will find that the penny is still there only rounded up to the higher nickel or dime. It's just going to be a bigger profit margin just like the credit card fees are figured in a selling price already is.
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a monopoly on copper is the plan, on a world wide scale ... - it's not the elimination of the 1 cent, it's the elimination of firearm casings, and a strict environmental ban on copper,zinc and nickel refining.
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This is not going to be a huge savings for government. But anytime we're spending more money on something that people don't actually use, that's an example of something we should probably change," Obama said.


this is exciting now that obama mentioned it, the end is near! well maybe not but.. something to look forward too..
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Will pennies still be in change? Or is the government going to pull them out? I don't see a point in keeping them. They not really that great. Nothing you can buy for a cent. You must spend a quarter or more to buy something.
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Ghostrider, no offense, but that's ridiculous. How hard do you think it would be to count by sixes, and how on earth would you make change without . . . PENNIES?


As for the cent, I vote that it be discontinued but left in circulation until it peters itself out. I see plenty of folks come into my work counting out pennies for fill-in-the-blank.
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jbuck - my point is the prices today as you note don't reflect the rounding - the rounding is done at the register. In a few months, all the products prices will be rounded up before the price lists are displayed.
That makes no sense, because adding sales tax will change the total, which will no longer be rounded to the nearest nickel or dime.
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All the mint needs to do is increase the coinage amount. Instead of the penny it should now be the 2 cent piect, the nickle be become the 6 cent piece, the dime goes to 11 cent and so forth. With the Bureau of Engraving increasing the bill value accordingly.


1 huge problem with that idea. You cant make proper change with an 11 cent piece and no pennies.

You could in theory adjust prices to not need a penny but if you have a 2 and 6 cent piece a dime either needs to be 10 or 12 and the quarter would have to be 24 or 26
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One more thing on rounding. The Canadian mindset is different in issues concerning money. I find that in Canada, there still is some personal pride taken to try to give a good product for a good price. A lot more of the US mindset is to milk the public for all they can get. So I personally think its a mistake to believe that since Canadian businesses are giving the consumer the benefit of rounding, that US businesses would follow suit.

Some of the things I could relate would really surprise you. And I know this concept is not an absolute, but from extensive time in Canada, I have experienced a refreshing lack of overall greed in Canada.

I have little faith that US businesses (unless Mom and Pop) would not round up to their advantage. Just b/c Canada does something does not mean the States will. If you want a good example of this mindset difference, Google the story of the guy who walked a tightrope over Niagara Falls last July. The mindsets of the two countries involved in the whole ordeal spell it out pretty plain where money came into the picture.
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The American Way: get every buck they can afford out of 'em, and when they have no more to spend, implement fees to get the rest.
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From my experience where minor coins have been withdrawn, the rounding proces is competely forgotten within six months.
Life just went on completely unaffected.
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I think the US should cease penny production like Canada did. Pennys are cumbersome and a hassle to deal with. It's already an unrespected denomination that doesn't buy anything. Seems the US is somewhat behind the times with the rest of the world when it comes to coins.
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As a collector there is something truly sad about the potential loss of the penny, however, the rise of inflation and production costs require us to assess whether continuing to make it makes sense.

I was in South Africa right after they stopped production of the 1 and 2 cent pieces, and they seemed to be getting along fine. They rounded up if it was 5-9, and down if it was below (if you paid cash) much the same way Canada is doing.

With all that said, we Americans do tend to be a pretty hard-headed bunch, so any change like this is sure to cause lots of people to be upset (probably the same people who say we need to reduce our government spending).
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