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New Zealand 1949 Penny Overstamped 1952

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 Posted 02/22/2013  05:18 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tuipenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, My elderly father has a collection of various New Zealand pre-decimal currency that was passed off to him as Australian coins when he was driving buses on Sydney's north shore in the 1950s. He used to collect the foreign coins, mainly pennies and half pennies. One of them is a 1949 New Zealand penny that has been over stamped with "1952" with a separate dot above the date. I cannot find any reference to such coins online and would like to know if anyone has any information regarding this coin.

Many Thanks,
Tom

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 Posted 02/22/2013  06:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone has added the numbers and the dot for whatever reason, but it wouldn't have been done at the mint. It's technically damage to the coin.
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 Posted 02/22/2013  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and very neatly done too !
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 Posted 02/22/2013  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a very long stretch but it hints at a possibility: I have a Maria Theresa thaler that is stamped 1941 Aden The letters and numbers were stamped using individual punches like yours. My coin came with a known history. It was taken from a German POW by a Brit Sgt in Egypt. It is assumed the counterstamp was added later in Aden where it was traded to a US soldier. I purchased it on ebay USA.

I wonder if there was some Commonwealth military tradition of stamping coins? Given yours is a 49 penny and is stamped 1952 there might be the distant possibility that the coin might be related to the Malayan campaign. the NZ Airforce started working there in 1949. Why I suspect military is that they would have the engineering workshops that would have the necessary punches at hand. Does it look like your coin was heated before the letters were added?

Had the date been '51' I would have also suggested looking into links with the waterfront strike. Another possibility would be the NZ railway workshops. I know all these possibilities are slight but perhaps they might give possibilities for research.

Edit:If you think this possibility is worth chasing I would suggest you email (include the photo)the Australian War Museum and the Waiouru Army Museum and ask if they have similarly stamped coins in their archives ( Often families donate war related souvenirs to such museums) If you ask the worst thing they can say is they can't help.
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 Posted 07/11/2021  02:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NZStamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I blame the Ozzie's first it was pavlova.
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I blame the Ozzie's first it was pavlova.

Ha ha.. That's rich coming from the land of Kiwi Fruit. Oops, I mean Chinese Gooseberry.
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I suspect, as others have stated, it is PMD. If there is any story from a mint perspective, Princetane will know.
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Complete PMD - nothing official here, damaged 1949 penny in barely Fine condition (Absolute minimotiri basal state) = value of copper only about 6 cents.

No way anyone would authorise something this amateurish in the 1950s, also defacing coin of the realm was an offence at this stage.

Overall, a very tacky and amateurish defacing of a common coin.
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