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carlispower New Member Sweden 7 Posts	Posted 02/23/2013 09:44 am A find or a fake? Report this Post to the Staff

DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 02/23/2013 1:36 pm Welcome to CCF! I'm in no way an expert on these Sardinia coins. However, I take special interest in dates on coins, and the date is where forgers often make stylistic mistakes. Compare your coin to an example taken from an auction house (below). Note how the serifs and shape of the numerals are quite different from a genuine coin? I suspect your coin is a modern copy. Report this Post to the Staff
carlispower New Member Sweden 7 Posts	Posted 02/23/2013 2:20 pm This is thing that I have noticed. Still the coin feels right and If it is a restrike Its a very Good One. Is there a record of restrikes? Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 02/23/2013 2:34 pm I have doubts this is an authroized restrike--wouldn't they use correct dies? Judging by the surfaces, it may be cast. The more I look, the more I see problems with details--hair, lettering, etc--compare to real coin below. I suspect this is a copy (fake) produced in China in the last few decades--an expert on forgeries might know more. The market has become so flooded with fakes of larger silver coins that collectors should first try to prove a coin is real. Sorry to sound discouraging, but such copies are very common. Edited by DVCollector 02/23/2013 2:36 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Peter THOMAS Pillar of the Community Australia 2830 Posts	Posted 02/23/2013 7:28 pm DVC really is a dab hand with those little arrows ! CarlisPower: two tests - quick & inexpensive - for any silver coin are - weight and ... does it react to a magnet ? Most counterfeiters can't get these correct. How does your coin weigh & react ? Report this Post to the Staff
carlispower New Member Sweden 7 Posts	Posted 02/23/2013 7:57 pm It has no reaktion to a magnet and I dont have a scale . Willl update This once I get my hands on a scale. Report this Post to the Staff
carlispower New Member Sweden 7 Posts	Posted 02/24/2013 12:46 pm http://www.muenzauktion.info/auctio...p?id=2347380 I thank you for your time folks. The hunt continues! Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2884 Posts	Posted 02/24/2013 12:59 pm That auction was cancelled! My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 02/24/2013 2:56 pm From the auction linked above (rough translation): "Attention: this coin is a later restrike for purposes of a sample copy, a replica without a year of minting, in other words a fake!" Carlispower, now I better understand why you thought it was a restrike. With the badly formed date and lack of fine details, I would think it's a recent fake--most likely a casting. Compare to the real coin. I saved the pictures from the auction. Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 02/24/2013 10:51 pm Absolutely a Modern Fake - not a restrike. It is a melt coin worth what it contains in metal. There is a "look" to the coin that is just wrong. This one screams at me MODERN. Report this Post to the Staff
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