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Rant: Why Doesn't Canada Have Prime Ministers On Coins?

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 Posted 02/24/2013  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1967Canadapenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly, as an american, the last thing you should do is make your coins like ours. Your coins are awesome, and ours are... er... less than awesome. (I'm talking about your circulating coins because I'm not really interested in the NCLT other than the commemorative silver dollars)
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 Posted 02/24/2013  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lithanial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not against putting PM's on our coins, but I would not EVER buy one.
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 Posted 02/24/2013  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wettld2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Diddo.
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Hepcat's Avatar
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 Posted 02/25/2013  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hepcat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm fine with beavers and snakes, but I'd rather honour dead PMs than British monarchs - living, dead or otherwise.

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02/25/2013 3:55 pm
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 Posted 02/25/2013  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocket change 50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back in history when Americans had the Boston Tea Party, those loyal to the crown moved to Canada and were known as loyalists. I grew up watching televised visits of the Royals and have watched the last 2 televised weddings. I'd rather have the monarchy on our coins, as it gives a since of history to such a young country. Our politicians have seldom had stellar behaviour. Many of our founding fathers were drunks and would show up to assembly drunk. Read the history of the HBC and the founding of our Rail roads. Much of our early history was closely tied to England. Our constitution was only brought home in 1982, only 31 years ago. I love the historical non political Heroes. We should have more historical figures like Monte Calm/ Wolf/Riel/etc. it's a great way to teach history to our youth. I use coins to teach my son history. His was astonish to learn during the war of 1812, in may 1814 Canadians burnt down part of the White House. I could see a nice one time COmmerative silver set, something along the lines of 20 for 20. I love the monarchy on my circulation money. Rox
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 Posted 02/26/2013  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marc D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Rox !! Canada's head of state is currently QEII. Her Majesty the queen has her place on our coinage, just has she does in every Military Mess Halls in Canada.
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 Posted 02/27/2013  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ravenzcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly, some might argue they'd much rather have a snake than a Prime Minister on a coin. Others might argue there is no difference between the two. In fact, I could practically guarantee there are people on this forum who would call one or more of PET, Brian Mulroney, Jean Chretien & Stephen Harper a snake and probably some who would call all of them snakes.

All kidding aside, I would not want to see PMs on our coins as a permanent fixture, but would be OK with dead PMs being represented in a special series. Less sure about still living ones.
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 Posted 02/27/2013  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cassidy77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The idea of having PMS ON OUR COINS IS UTTERLY REVOLTING!

most of them are elected by less than 10% of the population so at least 90% of us are guaranteed to not care a less about them from the get go.....The monarch isn't elected and therefore simply a symbol of patriotism [love it or loathe it]and as they seem to persist over decades we tend to get used to them.

wildlife is acceptable...id rather have a loonie than a goonie and our present PM would qualify for that term
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 Posted 02/27/2013  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

The President is an elected head of state. And, let's face it, they practically coronate them (inauguration).

The worship shown by large percentages of the US population toward their Presidents, especially certain historical ones, is almost completely non-existent toward PMs. The closest one would be Sir John A. Probably because he was #1. PET is the only other really big name, and he was reviled by western Canada.

I would think sea to sea to sea admiration would be required before any PM would be considered worthy of a coin.
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 Posted 04/12/2016  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hepcat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I recall attending the parade in London, Ontario in 1959 when Queen Elizabeth II paid us a visit. I thought it was an annual thing at the time, very much like the Santa Claus parade.

I also recall how chagrined I felt throughout grade school hearing "God Save the Queen" played before movies and seeing the Red Ensign, a variant of the Union Jack, being flown from flagpoles. It was as if Canada wasn't a full grown country in its own right, but just some second class citizen or territory of the U.K. I felt mildly ashamed at our subservient status.

I also recall how proud I was when our new maple leaf flag was unveiled in 1965! At last a flag of our own like a full grown country!

And don't talk to me about history. I still remember very clearly that the Brits deported 11,500 of my fellow Canadians from Acadia to Louisiana and other parts in the middle of the eighteenth century. I recall that the Brits cavalierly ceded the Ohio Valley to the Yanks after the American Revolutionary War of Independence.

I recall that the Brits drew us Canadians into their imperialist Boer War against the Afrikaaners in 1899. I also recall that they called on us Canadians to bail them out of another one of their imperialist European wars in 1914. I see the cenotaphs and count the names of my fellow Canadians.

Yes, the Brits have done a lot for us historically, and I remember every bit of it and still hate and resent them for it.

Put a little fur bearing animal, Leif Erickson or some drunk on our coins. I don't care. I just want their stinking Queen off our currency. And that goes for her offspring as well. I want no reminder of the Brits here in Canada.

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04/12/2016 4:35 pm
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 Posted 04/12/2016  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hcmusicguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Honestly, as an American, the last thing you should do is make your coins like ours.


My philosophy is that the President is an elected official. A politician. A public servant. Sure, some of them have made some great contributions to history, but they don't deserve to be on our regular coinage. I mean, in the case of an anniversary of birth (Washington in 1932 or Lincoln in 1909), or death of a well-liked president past or current (Ike or Kennedy), I could see a one-year circulating or non circulating commemorative. But not the same-old, same-old for 100+ years.
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04/13/2016 11:06 am
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 Posted 04/12/2016  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We in the UK don't have prime ministers on our coins either... and frankly given the bum's rush that most of them have given the general populace I can't see them being at all popular. Many of these polarise opinion... some thinking they were the best thing since sliced bread and others thinking they were the anti-Christ.

The Queen is far more popular...

If taken all the way back to its roots though it was believed in Ancient times that no mortal was worthy of appearing on coinage - it was only deities that were allowed to appear until Alexander III who believed he was a god on earth (the son of Zeus)

This broke the stigma and other monarchs started having their likeness on coins but under the idea that they were appointed by god.

I like that the USA has the clause that the person must be deceased before they can appear on the money.
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 Posted 04/12/2016  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Universalcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just want a Sir Wilfrid Laurier coin to pair with the old action figure!

http://www.cmdstore.com/canadian-le...laurier.html

Bear in mind, I'm a US expat and found the idea of an action figure designed around a former head of government FANTASTIC!
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04/12/2016 9:56 pm
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 Posted 04/13/2016  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would rather see someone like Stompin Tom Connors on a coin then a PM... or at least I would buy one over a PM coin lol.
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04/13/2016 12:01 pm
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 Posted 04/13/2016  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@universalcoins, I had no idea that there was a sir Wilfred laurier action figure.

I kind of get a kick out of it.

Well, with all these strong feelings about even the possibility of PMs on coins, can you imagine what would go on if they were actually issued?

I heard no complaints about the Sir John A M. commemorative last year. I wouldn't be surprised if this happens again, but only for selected Prime Ministers.
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