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Are these books still relevant when looking for varieties..? I haven't gotten into them in years but many "little" varieties are also listed. Most have info listed by Hans Zoell.  Edited by DEVLEC 02/25/2013 5:05 pm
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All are essential to any variety collector's library, with the 3rd & 5th Minor book much less so. What Zoell classified as "major" varieties are what most collectors consider real, collectible varieties. It dealt with different Obverse portraits, Obverse types, fonts, sizes, lettering mods/changes, digit placement and re-engraving/repunching and recuts. Minor varieties to him (and me) are die cracks, Cuds, chips, pits, etc.... in other words, Minors were coins produced on faulty planchets, or with bad dies, or with equipment that wasn't operating correctly. All of those Zoell books now bring a pretty penny on ebay or auction.
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Thanks again Bill. I guess that it's time for me to start doing a little homework.
Books from left to right,..would you guess a value for me?
They are all like new as I've had them tucked away in a box forever and never really made use of them.
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From left to right...
$50, $100, $60, $30
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100 bucks ? Then I guess I did OK getting that one for 33 bucks.
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Thanks for that up-date on book values..
If they were coins then they would be graded as "choice uncs".
From left to right on inside page.. ..$2.50..$1.50..$1.75..and $1.70. I guess that that's what I paid for them all as I bought them at the same time and at the same store. I better start looking at them now...
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DEVLEC, you sound like someone coming out of coin collecting retirement.
Edited by littlemoney 02/25/2013 7:30 pm
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Yes...I was active a few decades back and had ICCS grade most about ~15 years back, ..just to have a pro do some grading ..and set the bar for me. ICCS don't give anything away and I consider them very tough on grades. We oftenfeel that our coins are better than the pros do...  It's been a very long winter where I live and it's seems that it's not over yet.... That probably means more pics to follow......... 
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If I was going to keep any of the Zoell books, it would be the Major Varieties one... it is a good starting point for die variety collecting on anything from Queen Victoria to George VI. As far as the second edition is concerned, the numbering scheme completely changes to the third amd subsequent editions, but it does identify where there are matching obverse and reverse varieties on the same coin. Welcome back, but where are the winters so tedious.....
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Edited by Canadian-Banknotes 02/25/2013 8:21 pm
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Definitly a nice set, wish someone would do an up to date version, the Charest book doesn't hold a candle to Zoell's books.
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Definitly a nice set, wish someone would do an up to date version, the Charest book doesn't hold a candle to Zoell's books.
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Once again ...Thanks for those links. These ebay books look very sensitive to aging and light and showing a lot of spotting on the covers and inside,.. whereas mine here are almost like new and without the spots or aging.(pics included of mine) Mine were opened once and then put in a dark space and in untouched storage for many decades. I'm almost afraid to touch them now after seeing the ebay ones. Here are better pics.  
Edited by DEVLEC 02/26/2013 4:31 pm
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Edited by DEVLEC 02/26/2013 12:11 pm
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Quote: Yes...I was active a few decades back and had ICCS grade most about ~15 years back, ..just to have a pro do some grading ..and set the bar for me. ICCS don't give anything away and I consider them very tough on grades. ICCS grading 15 years ago was much different than today. You probably have some really nice, conservatively graded coins. You would be surprised what gets by in a MS-65 holder these days...
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So then getting a second opinion from lets say PCGS would be a good idea on some of my key coins.
There is probably "no way" that ICCS will change any of their previous grading.
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