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For your large cents, the best person to talk about PCGS grading would be bosox.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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How doe's this book : Pierre Charest canadian coins compare with the Zoell books which are almost impossible to get at any price.
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What the heck I ordered it. Only 46 bucks including shipping.
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Personally, I never found much use for the Charest books. The Zoell's are better, but you almost need them all after the 3rd edition. The numbering system changed then and each new pamplet was an addition or suppliment to all those that came earlier. To get all of the data, and make your library complete, you need 3-6.
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No surprise there; with the upswing in interest in Canadian varieties comes the need for information and reference material about them. I wouldn't mind a good set myself, but it'll take some time unless they manage to get republished. Anyone out there know if there are plans to re-release Zoell's works?
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Anyone out there know if there are plans to re-release Zoell's works? My bet is that it won't be until the copyright expires (2032...) "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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The Zoell copyrights are now owned by Charlton, as are the Griffin copyrights. As of a year ago, they had no plans to re-publish, since they acknowledge that die studies have advanced considerably since Zoell and Griffin. They only re-published the Griffin book because a promise had been made to Jack before he died.
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Thanks for the input, SPP and bosox. So what's a variety hunter to do? With the Zoell books 40+ years old and on the back burner, and the same goes more or less for Griffin (although I don't know that source well enough to know when the last time new information was available through it), and Charest being a good but not brilliantly fantastic reference, it makes me wonder if there is any new, thorough source coming out listing Canadian varieties -- or a series, maybe by denomination, or era, etc? I search through this site regularly and travel the internet, but while some sites are good there are many which have a few facts and factoids but no real comprehensive listing. Has there been any word of such a reference being readied for publication or are we all on our own here, publishing our own finds to keep the rest of us in the loop? Every now and then I run across a mention of some variety that bears looking out for -- the 1940 large date/small date penny comes to mind -- but then I can't seem to find any further reference to it anywhere and I end up wondering if some of these are just out-dated myths or merely the product of over-zealous imaginations.
A few of our members here on the Forum have published quite good works on the large pennies, I hear, (got to get me some of those one of these days, if they're still available) but I don't know of anything covering the small cents. I save every scrap of information I can, but it would be nice to have it all in one book, if possible. I realize that with this new interest in Canadian varieties bringing out all sorts of new ones a comprehensive volume might not be feasible quite yet, but if anyone has any news on something in the works I'm sure it would be welcomed by more than just a few of us.
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Pennysaver ... It sounds like, to me, a project looking for a group of like-minded folks to get together and start a research project. All you need is a driving force and a few retirees with time on their hands and small cents dancing in their heads. Bosox's books (4 now) cover a great deal of the Vicky large cents and Haxby has the die-trackers guide to the 1859's. The same can be done for small cents if a group so wishes. If you do, you have to do it for the hobby, not for financial reward, as there won't be any. It is money and time that you will take out of hide. The Canadian variety collectors population is extremely small, tiny even .. you will have no market to sell to other than 20 or so collectors and a few dealers. There is a small group of US Large Cent guys around that do stuff collectively .. start one with the small cents. |
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I'm not a small cent variety collector but I did stumble on a book once called Canadian Cent Varieties by James Croghan published in 1963. I had borrowed it from either the ANA or RCNA library thinking it was about large cents. Turns out it was a book on small cent varieties. http://www.amazon.com/Canadian-cent...p/B0007K01SE I don't know the quality of the work, only that it exists. |
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Bill in Burl: Thanks for the words of wisdom. I suspected as much, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. If there were enough collectors who could get a wide enough set of small cent varieties together I believe that as a labour of love it would be worth doing. I hadn't realized that the number of error collectors was so small -- as an error collector myself they're a big deal to me so I naturally went along with the idea that they are the center of everyone's universe, lol. But you're right. Millions of coin collectors around the world, maybe a hundred thousand or more active collectors of Canadian coins, thousands who collect the pennies avidly, and yet only a small handful who go for a complete set of penny errors. A tough task, perhaps, to get such a project underway and one day completed, but one I'd like to be involved in. Any one out there interested? Dan: Thank you for the link to the book -- I've never heard of it before, but now I need a copy for sure. I'll look around on ebay or my own library here in town but if I can't find one cheaper I'll be going the Amazon.com route. Thanks for the tip! |
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