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1908 Royal Mint Of Ottawa Set

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I came across this set in a red leather case with blue velvet lining. Inside top it reads " First Coinage In Canada,1908,ROYAL MINT OF OTTAWA

It is a five coin set but the dang dime is missing. The half, quarter, nickel, and penny are pristine.

What am I looking at here.? Couldn't find this set listed.

Gaz


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 Posted 02/25/2013  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, drool time if it is legit.

1908 specimen set (sans 10c).

e.g. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canada-Spec...t_642wt_1163
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too bad miss the 10cent coin
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Ouch..... Newbie on the loose! Apparently we must name pics or they overwrite on subsequent posts.

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Wow! So that dime becomes pretty important I'll bet. I didn't see any mention of the holder. Hmmmmm. Worth investigating further. I'm thinking with the holder it would tend to lean towards being legit.... They look perfect but then........
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I guess that all of those coins are FDC. From the pictures, that looks to be so.
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There is a strong market for those specimen strikes individually, but they pretty much have to be certified first.
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The set would be great, but if the coins were certified they would all sell well individually.

And, the case itself has collector value, separate from the coins.

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Thanks for the info all. I am just getting back into the hobby and while I have some knowledge of US coins and the like I am re learning the new "state of the hobby" stuff like certifications. It looks like I have to decide just how much I want to spend on certifications and exactly how it works. I will be having lots of questions and thankfully it looks like I came to the right place. Last nigh I found a 1897-O Morgan that I believe is in MS-63 condition that was a gift for my 35th birthday twenty two years ago. I havent laid eyes on it since 1991. SO many more coins to go through. I'm psyched!
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You know the rules.......Those coins are unprotected without any kind of flip over them. Don't let anyone make the mistake of touching any of them.

Best to take them out and place them each in a separate flip until you get them certified. With a bit of luck, you could find a near toned match for the missing 10 cent specimen to complete your set.
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The leather case is also sensitive to damage, so place it in some protective sleeve also. It looks in great shape.
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PCGS came back with the following :

Half,Quarter and Nickel at SP-63. Penny came back as UNC details "Smoothed". Not sure what that would mean. Anybody familiar with their nomenclature? I never quite understood why for $40 they couldn't give you a lousy piece of paper that explains their "details".

Anyway, I am curious as to suggestions of the best way to sell these pieces. Individually they add up to around $2000 book. My thought was they should be kept as a set with the holder even without the dime. I am considering Stacks Auction as a set but am in no rush to decide. I actually sent it in with the 1911 dime that was with the set when I found it (filler) and that same back as MS-63. The SP grade is worth considerably less than the MS grade on these pieces.

All thoughts appreciated.

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You're right...Business strikes in 1908 and in high grade (ie: MS 63 or better) are hard to find and should be pricy when and if you do.

That SP 1908 set is still a very nice find.
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Smoothed, might mean what is referred to as 'shelf rub' from being moved around on a velvet tray. Hard to say without seeing it...

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I've never heard of a "Smoothed" coin before.

If it was cabinet or "velvet rub",... you'd have thought that they would have said Reverse or Obverse Smoothed.
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Apologies to the board ...I misspoke or as Roger Clemens likes to say I Misremembered.

I sent over a dozen coins to PCGS and it was the 1864 2c Small Motto that came back as smoothed...NOT the penny in this set. The penny came back as SP- Genuine Cleaning- UNC details. Sorry for the inaccurate statement.

I will post the pics of the 2C back on the original thread below.


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