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I am pretty sure the coin is real. Nice looking coin with nice color and strong details....I would grade as XF details obv graffiti-obv damage-rev scratches. Probably why the coin is not in a TPG. Edited by g048406
02/25/2013 10:02 pm
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That X doesn't look scratched. It looks bossed. That makes me skeptical, but without any other pictures or seeing the coin in-hand I can't say either way.
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The X appears raised. This coin throws up no red flags with me but, it needs to go to PCGS.
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The coin looks good otherwise but I just don't know about that "X". It looks raised for some reason.
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That X doesn't look scratched. It looks bossed. That makes me skeptical  Look at the depression at the end of the horizontal line in the last A in AMERICA and the odd shaped depression in the field adjacent to it. They look like they could be air pockets from air bubbles. Ed ANA LM-3175 |
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For those 'concerned' about the raised 'x' scratch.....it is very common on bust dollars here is an 1802 Bust Dollar NGC-XF details-graffiti:  |
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I dunno much about those scratched on die crosses. Perhaps there is a reference to these in some erudite numismatic journal.
Would like to compare a picture alongside a picture of a known genuine coin. That may be a bit hard knowing that there a few die varieties of these.
Perhaps SsuperDdave can comment.
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The coin in question has the little dot above the 1 in the date, characteristic of B-4. Would they think to put that there with a counterfeit? The knife damage is understandable - the right kind of gouge raises a thin line of metal which almost immediately folds back down in circulation.
Even with the scratches, a decent VF that's a pretty darn good price at the opening bid.
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It doesn't look right to me. The face and the star touching the bust? Please correct my half fast opinion.  |
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gouge raises a thin line of metal which almost immediately folds back down in circulation.
That makes sense  swcoin.ecrater.com
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I agree with Super Dave (as per usual). Looks good for a B-4 BB-61.
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What's interesting is the scratch between stars 7 and 8 is into the coin, while, the x seems raised onto the surface of the coin. I wonder, since I've seen these x's on other bust dollars, if it's a scratch at all. Maybe it came from the die itself.
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I understand perfectly why it looks raised - it likely is, a bit (see my explanation above), but now that you mention it one sees these pretty often on Early coinage. I wonder if there was some cultural reference or something.
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That's a beautiful coin. I don't mind the X but I wonder how it affects value. Think I'll search through Heritage's archives to see if I can find a good comparison. Will follow this auction with interest...
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I am tempted to hypothesise that the scratch marks may have been put there deliberately by the Mint, to easily identify the respective products off each die.
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Posted 02/25/2013 10:06 pm
