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Thinking About 20kgs + Pennies

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I have found a Australia 20kgs+ being 263 1/2 pennies & 1,935 pennies. No key dates. Is it worth $220 posted?

This auction house I have had a lot of trouble with their descriptions but I have stayed with them because there is very little competition when bidding because of this description problem I believe.

Very cheap res. But it must be picked to death. The buy I got in the other thread I mentioned makes me think it came out of a lot like this one. Mailing cost would have to be in 2 parcels as it is over 20kgs.

Any thoughts very welcome!

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 Posted 02/27/2013  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevo1962 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still pretty cheap at that price
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It only takes a couple of "good" coins to make it worthwhile.!!
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Seeing as you are just a beginner I think buying bulk lots is the way to go. $200 is decent even though there wont be anything half valuable in there. You could sell on ebay and make a profit at that price I reckon.

Why I think bulk lots is a good way to go is because through handling thousands of coins you will begin to pick up certain notes on some years. For example you will soon learn that the strikes on perth minted coins are horrible, some dates are plagued by die cracks/ghosting, some dates are better struck than others.
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Thank you to every one for sharing!

enworb you are spoiling me with just the right info to get me on track again.
It is really nice to read comments here and say to ones self why did I not think of that.

I have emailed a bid to that auction house and then added 16.5% buyers tax and $50 for mailing to get the true cost of the bid for my own records.

Like any bidding you never know if you do not have a go!

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 Posted 03/04/2013  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kg5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This auction house descriptions are spot on for coins. I have said different elsewhere and I was 100% wrong!

I have won this lot and I figured out around $50 mailing but it is $75. I have asked for recent high values stamps to help me with the mailing costs as this is my area.

I emailed for a more details concerning this lot before I bid. Two of the questions were "what is the history to this lot?" "has it been picked over 100x?"

The answer was it had come from an older persons life collection and they doubt very much if it has been checked at all and if it has it is still in this lot.

Next question was how is the general condition of the coins and the reply was the coins are in extremely good condition compared to lots of this type. All the years are in envelopes. It is set out as a collection.

Well I am going to find out!
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 Posted 03/04/2013  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats on your win.! Hours of fun ahead.! Will follow with interest.!
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If the years are in envelopes, it has certainly been sorted through.
The question remains: To what extent?
If you accept that the lot has been date sorted, I would not expect to find any '25's or '46's.
Numismatically, that leaves you with examining every likely date for scarce varieties. A copy of Fred Lever's book on varieties would help you.

That is going to require quite a lot of time. A pair of thin gloves will be required, otherwise you fingers will get dirty, and copper is mildly toxic in coin form when handled in bulk.

I don't know the scrap value of 20 kg of bronze, but if it was pure copper, 20 kgs has a value of around $150. Perhaps a scrap metal dealer would take thew remainder for something like $80 to $100, a dealer maybe more, but you would have to negotiate.

Obviously, a date set in best condition with all varieties would be the thing to extract from this lot.

Throw a couple of them in your toilet cistern, they will kill the algae over a period of a month or so, and the cistern will appear to be perfectly clean. Give a few away for the same reason.

20 kg would yield about 2,100 pennies. Have fun!
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 Posted 03/04/2013  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kg5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With enworb quote below and sel_69l comment and much encouragement from others. I am very happy with this buy so far.



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Why I think bulk lots is a good way to go is because through handling thousands of coins you will begin to pick up certain notes on some years. For example you will soon learn that the strikes on perth minted coins are horrible, some dates are plagued by die cracks/ghosting, some dates are better struck than others.


I live another type of collectable 24/7 365 days and I need a change. I am going stale after 15 years of basically doing little else. But my background does open up ebay as a serious option. I do not have to rush in and get it wrong as our credibility on ebay is in all this as well.



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Seeing as you are just a beginner I think buying bulk lots is the way to go. $200 is decent even though there wont be anything half valuable in there. You could sell on ebay and make a profit at that price I reckon.



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Australia 20kgs+ being 263 1/2 pennies & 1,935 pennies. No key dates.


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The 20kgs arrived today along with the other buy. The stamps for the 20kgs has come in recent mini sheets cancelled and place in a plastic sleeve and then tape to the parcel. Will earn mailing cost plus about 30% of the penny cost. Extremely happy about this as it makes it a very cheap buy.

1960's complete in numbers.

1950's complete in numbers. Huge amount 1952.

1940's in numbers no 1940 or 1946.

1930's in numbers no 1930.

1920's 20,21,22,23,24,27 in small numbers.

1910's in numbers 11,12,13,19 small numbers 16,17

There is very, very little corrosion. Looks a great lot of pennies for my needs. Kings & Queens heads look to have a lot of detail which has surprised me. Have only looked at few bags. Pulled out a few lookers in the 1930's.

The way it has come will mean I can start listing next Saturday as it is only one date of each at a time. So I can go hard looking at pennies or not.
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Looks like some fun days ahead for you.! Should be some great errors and die cracks in that amount of coins. Enjoy.!!
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 Posted 03/11/2013  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kg5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you robster!
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 Posted 03/11/2013  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kg5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So now I have a whole heap of Australian pennies spread out over many years.

Now what do I have in mind? I have read that some on CCF are not that keen on selling and have the purest collector attitude. Which is fair enough. Every one has a right to there own ways. But I like to try and think outside of the square.

This penny buy is for many reasons. We get a lot of buyers and traffic on ebay and we only sell Australia and to see some coins in our ebay store especially Australian pennies at $1 each can only help coin collecting and add some interest to our store.

We give out "bonus extras" to every buyer and pennies at approx 8c each sounds like a great way to hand out a bonus.

I also get to start my own collection and to look for errors etc.

It is a nice way to look at things from our end! Different but nice!

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