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How Do You Determine Value Of Classic Coins With Issues?

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As you may know, many older classic coins have some issues including a large majority have been cleaned at one time. How do you determine the value of a coin even with a slight problem? For instance, this coin below has been cleaned. It has nice details though and to me still looks kind of attractive. How would you determine a fair price to pay for it?


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In this instance, an 1853 Large Cent, there are so many high grade examples on the market that I would avoid it. Something like 6.6 million of these were minted in 1853, the second highest mintage of the series, finding one problem free should be easy and won't break the bank. This appears to be XF Details Cleaned/Environmental Damage. I have a hard time putting a value on it because of the availability of nicer examples.
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Generally speaking, the market decides the worth of problem coins. With low mintage and scarce coins, I have seen some problem coins go for crazy money. Not so much to dedicated collectors but to people that just want a particular coin in their collection. A 1909 s Indian penny or a 1928 P Peace dollar, I have seen some 1889 CC Morgans that have obviously been harshly cleaned, tooled or filled go for hundreds and hundreds of dollars, just because there nare always people who will sacrifice quality for affordability.

On common coins, there is always a market, but for pennies on the Red Book dollar. With different levels of collectors, there is always someone but the value lies in who wants it, when and how bad at that particular time. I don't think you can set a value based on say , a percentage of a non problem coin.
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Yes, I agree. It can be difficult to determine the value of problem coins even though there is actually a market for them. I have seen people buy large cents, Shield nickels, 2 cent or 3 cent pieces, Seated coins, bust coins, and more in all sorts of conditions but the coins with issues are difficult to put a price on. I guess the best thing to do with those is list them on ebay with the very minimum amount you will accept as the starting bid or just start them at 99 cents with free shipping. The problem free coins are a lot easier to determine the value, you look at all the guides including graysheet, RedBook, and Numismedia.
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If the coin is priced right with good eye appeal I can live with a minor problem. If it's a major problem(harshly cleaned, environmental damage, corrosion) I don't want it at any price. As far as a fair market value I'd look at completed ebay auctions, throwing out any results that were unusually high or low.
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This coin was part of a lot. I missed the part that the coins have slight problems. One coin was altered to look like a 1815 to complete a date run since there is none and the other had slight verdigris and I soaked it in Verdi-care and it came off. They said it was porous but don't see a major issue with it:




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Here is one I found that I bought with a large lot of V nickels. I am sure someone would like the date cheap but as you can see, it is a VF Details--Very Ugly graded coin.
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