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Proffessional Coin Cleaning And Slabbing

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 Posted 03/13/2013  12:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I recently purchased the highlight of my collection .
It is a higher grade (gVF- aEF) 1920 dot over English penny(certainly the best example extant of this R7 rarity). It does however have the usual gunk in the letters and denticles (and possibly a light coat of oil) that detracts from the coin.
I want to get the coin properly cleaned/conserved so I can take high res images (for research) and then get it slabbed. I don't want to risk it being damaged or bodybagged by improper cleaning.
Can anyone with experience recommend a suitable proffesional conserver on the East Coast of Australia that preferably is used by the big 3 proffessional grading services for pre slabbing conserving.
BTW which of the 3 slabbers is best for Australian pre-decimals?
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 Posted 03/13/2013  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds from your description that this coin may have been cleaned in olive oil.
Simply dunk it in acetone to get rid of the oily residue and do NOTHING else to it.
If after the acetone bath you are not happy then see if you can get a refund for the coin
I have to add that I am TOTALLY the wrong person to ask about slobbing
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03/13/2013 01:30 am
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 Posted 03/13/2013  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Love to see a photo of this coin.!!
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 Posted 03/13/2013  02:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Trout, not a chance in heck that I would return this gem. Got it from England (UK ebay) and paid 3,000 pounds ($4,700). In VG they go for over $3,000, in F for over $5,000; so I got a bargain (I was prepared to go to over 11,000 pounds). I won't try doing anything to the coin (in case I stuff things up) and that is why I want the best proffessional conserver possible.
Robster, I have not yet photographed the coin but it is still possible to see on UK ebay (NOT Aussie eBay- probably why I didn't get much competition). It is item 380577131282 (or just go to Coins; 1920 penny and look at completed items highest price first and it comes up).
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 Posted 03/13/2013  02:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nealeffendi, my goodness, what a beautiful coin!

No mistaking the dot eh!

Stunning , congratulations.
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Australia
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 Posted 03/13/2013  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know your passion for this year and am very happy it is now in your hands.! Will follow with extreme interest.!.
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 Posted 03/13/2013  03:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a really strong dot and a nice overall grade. Id be leaning towards aEF rather than gVF. Probably get AU-50-53 I reckon. NGC have a conservation service.
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 Posted 03/13/2013  03:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bellyflorin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nealeffendi have a read of this , nice pickup

http://www.pcgs.com/restoration/
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 Posted 03/13/2013  04:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW,a beauty.Here is the link to NGC http://www.ncscoin.com/
Please keep us updated on this coin.
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 Posted 03/13/2013  06:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1188howest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Simply dunk it in acetone to get rid of the oily residue and do NOTHING else to it.
If after the acetone bath you are not happy then see if you can get a refund for the coin


WARM DISTILLED WATER FIRST and no detergents.4 or 5 5 min. soaks,pat dry and place on a warm scratch free surface.The coin appears problem free,why use acetone?But if you must find the purist form available.
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 Posted 03/13/2013  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Id use acetone before distilled water all day. If there is a sheen of oil then distilled water isn't going to do a thing, acetone will.
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 Posted 03/13/2013  06:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nightparrot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For a coin of that value I would be sending it to a professional....I've heard good reports about both PCGS and NCS, but I would be asking them some questions well before sending them that coin.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies.
I looked at the recommended slabbers and there are a few problems.
They conserve and slab the coin ( they say 4-6 week turnaround but that is probably for the USA, but I'm fine with waiting), but how do I get very high resolution detailed photos from multiple angles, special lighting tricks etc done once the coin is slabbed? Some of the details I need are down to microns in size. But if I crack the slab to take the images I void the grade backing.
Does anyone have experience of using these services and were there any problems?
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 Posted 03/14/2013  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ADMISLSE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
please help me out, dear members. I thought DOT OVER LOWER SCROLL is not rare at all, shold be DOT OVER TOP SCROLL which is rare one. My mistake?
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 Posted 03/14/2013  02:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is "dot over lower scroll" with English obverse'!
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 Posted 03/14/2013  02:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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please help me out, dear members. I thought DOT OVER LOWER SCROLL is not rare at all, shold be DOT OVER TOP SCROLL which is rare one. My mistake?

You are quite correct, If this were an Aussie penny.
But this is a Canadian penny
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