1800/79 Draped Bust Large One Cent Coin

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mds308 Pillar of the Community United States 1721 Posts	Posted 03/14/2013 2:03 pm Got this one earlier today and was wondering if it's the 1800/79 variety? The coin has wear (maybe AG) but looks like one with an honest, uncleaned appearance. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for your help. Report this Post to the Staff

vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 03/14/2013 3:58 pm It is not an 1800/79. Even on lower grade examples, the top of tge 7 and 9, are clearly evident. Below is one for comparison. I'm guessing what your seeing is a die chip. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
ExoGuy Pillar of the Community United States 4416 Posts	Posted 03/14/2013 5:24 pm This is the so-called "Q variety" or S-197. In addition to the date, note that there's a die chip below the ER in LIBERTY. Report this Post to the Staff
ExoGuy Pillar of the Community United States 4416 Posts	Posted 03/14/2013 5:30 pm Here's a nice S-197 that was in the Goldberg auction of the Dan Holmes' collection: http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...e=54&lot=370 This archive is an excellent tool for purposes of attribution. Goldberg has sold many great coppers over the years. Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 03/14/2013 6:53 pm Good call! Report this Post to the Staff
mds308 Pillar of the Community United States 1721 Posts	Posted 03/14/2013 8:56 pm To everybody & ExoGuy, Thanks for your responses. Great call ExoDude. Huge help. I wish mine looked half as nice as the one in that auction. My coin comes with a story (don't they all?). I'll save this tale for another thread. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 03/15/2013 11:51 am Agreed S-197 (You have to be a little careful, S-212 sometimes comes with similar die chips through the first 0. It is sometimes called "The pseudo Q variety".) S-212 early die state, note the light chips in the first 0 compared to the OP coin S-212 late state see how the chips through the 0 have grown heavier. Even in this late stage the chips inside the 0 are not as heavily developed as on the S-197. http://64.60.141.195/photos/54jpegs/142942.jpg Quote: It is not an 1800/79. Even on lower grade examples, the top of the 7 and 9, are clearly evident.[/quote] This is not always true. There are seven different 1800/179 and four different 1800/1798 varieties from six different obverse dies. On five of the dies the 7 shows well on one it does not. The 9 only shows well on four of the dies but not on the other two. Unfortunately the four rarest of the eleven overdate varieties come from those two obverses that don't show the 7 and 9 well. Edited by Conder101 03/15/2013 12:04 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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