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A Pet Peeve (That Is Probably Unwarranted)

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 Posted 03/14/2013  01:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tuckasaurus to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does it break anybody else's heart to see all the listings of people that inherited a collection from their grandparents and are trying to sell them? I know the economy is tight. Something about it just doesn't sit well with me. Some of these people collected for years to pass down to loved ones who just sell them. Maybe I'm being irrational. I guess if people didn't sell them, then I couldn't buy them. Just a thought.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rking007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I can unfortunately see both sides to this. My heart says, 'C'mon! He collected for YEARS and you're just gonna pitch em?' But then I have to consider my current situation.

My Grandma just died over Christmas and my Aunt is currently going through the house and getting everything ready for estate sales and antique appraisal. They have a pretty good sized collection of Morgans, Peace, Barbers, Walkers, etc. and I have asked about them. I feel like my aunt really wants to let them go to me because she knows I'll take good care of them but at the same time, they need to come up with $25,000 to pay for the funeral and other debts she had outstanding and she is considering letting them go to help pay. Unfortunately, there is no way I could come up with what it would take to buy them at silver prices and no one else in the family has any money either so... it's sad.

Now, back to the other hand, I get pretty burned when I hear about teenage kids who inherit collections and just go off and sell them for whatever and then end up spending the money on booze or video games or whatever. That, is just disrespectful.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  01:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgettings00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I definitely agree with the last sentence.
But also once I pass my collection on I would really hope that person wouldn't ever sell it.
It is probably my most cherished possession which I'm sure will take up a large part of my life in the future and it will be a sad day beyond the grave when a grandson sells it to make some quick cash.

But then again, it could go into a few new collector's hands and start the cycle all over again...
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 Posted 03/14/2013  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Luvpennys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's where my collection started. Passed down from generation to generation.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  05:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It doesn't really bother me in all honesty. It would be a better story if they stayed in the family for generations but everyone has their own interests. Sometimes the process of trying to sell them gets people more interested in the coins than they were before too.

Plus even if they are sold all is not lost, it is still somewhat of an inheritance thats been passed on where the money can be used where needed or on things that they do enjoy themselves. I like to think that the grandparents would be happier knowing that theyre happy doing what they enjoy rather than just holding onto something they have no interest in.


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I get pretty burned when I hear about teenage kids who inherit collections and just go off and sell them for whatever and then end up spending the money on booze or video games or whatever.


That I agree with it. Its one thing to sell them to put towards things you like, but if the things you like are drugs well.........
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 Posted 03/14/2013  06:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cali_Nick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I inherited a small collection from my Grandfather. To be honest, I wasnt that interested at first, except I knew they meant a lot to him. I didnt even look through the stuff until a few years later. After doing a little research to check on values, I actually had no interest in selling at all. Then all of a sudden I got excited about coin collecting and decided it would be OK to sell off a few doubles and try to finish a whole set. Well so far I've made some purchases but still have not got around to selling any doubles.....

But I can understand in most situations where a collection is passed on family will either be falling all over themselves to sell it off because they think its worth a lot of money.. or simply not care and be happy if some other family member takes the heavy boxes away.

So in conclusion, send all coin collections to me, I promise I wont sell any.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I collect for my own enjoyment and hope that my son will be interested when I pass. HOWEVER, if he is not, I plan on making sure my records are good enough that he can sell them knowledgeably. I have told him that if he chooses to sell when I am gone, that is fine with me. I do not want him saddled with a bunch of things that he really does not want.

God willing, we will never need to sell for financial reasons but if we do, so be it. It only means that I get to start the hunt over again when things turn around.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I work with a group that handles estate sales. There are many ways you can look at the possessions of the deceased & I believe I've seen most of them. I think the two extremes can be illustrated by an estate we handled a couple years ago.

This was a very wealthy family with 11 heirs, each of whom was going to inherit over 7 figures. The belongings of the deceased had been in storage for about 18 months. The family decided they wanted our group to pull everything out of storage & price it so they could split everything up. They also asked us to help on the day they made their choices. Once we had everything set up the family drew numbers for the order they would select items. The idea was for each member to select items in turn until either everything was chosen or until each member had everything they wanted. At that point their picks would be added up to be counted against their inheritance. Any items remaining would be donated to charity with the estate getting the tax deduction.

Most of the family members selected several items. There were a couple exceptions. One person only picked one item. Another member & their spouse kept picking long after the rest of the family had stopped. We were all getting along pretty well & I'm always interested in why people act the way they do so I asked those people why they made the choices they did. The person that selected one item told me that the end table he picked always sat next to his Mother's chair & had sat next to his Grandmother's chair when she was alive. He was going to put it next to his chair & hoped his Daughter would put it next to her chair when he passed. The couple that kept selecting items long after the rest of the family stopped told me the items were too nice to go with strangers. They also told me they didn't really have room for everything they picked. If I had to guess I'd say that the end table of the first guy is sitting next to his chair & the majorty of the items the couple picked are sitting in the same boxes we packed them in sitting in storage.

Here's what people lose sight of. Unless an item has a specific memory associated with it it's just stuff.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Here's what people lose sight of. Unless an item has a specific memory associated with it it's just stuff."
AMEN, trdhrdr007!

Tuckasaurus,
I saddens me more than peeves me. But when a person comes to us for help in selling
it is our duty and our privilege to help.

rking007,
Let us now what your budget is and the members will help you to cherry pick what you can afford.


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I collect for my own enjoyment and hope that my son will be interested when I pass. HOWEVER, if he is not, I plan on making sure my records are good enough that he can sell them knowledgeably. I have told him that if he chooses to sell when I am gone, that is fine with me. I do not want him saddled with a bunch of things that he really does not want.

God willing, we will never need to sell for financial reasons but if we do, so be it. It only means that I get to start the hunt over again when things turn around.


That's how I approach it as well. I've thought a lot about this topic as my kids get a little older. My oldest son (12) does not seem interested in coins at all. My daughter does a little only because she knows I like it. I often wonder why am I purchasing a certain coin or what will I do with my collection as I get older. I have no intentions of selling it. I doubt my kids would either after I pass unless they really had too. But if no one sells it then what value is it to anyone other than memories?
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 Posted 03/14/2013  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CoinsKelly and chesterb,

I went through a similar process some 6 or 7 years ago.
Neither children nor grandchildren. Only my sister to care for.
I did not want to sell everything, and I still wanted to collect.

Solution:
Interest sister with something aesthetic - coins are as pretty as the quilts you sew. She has gotten quite
good at seeing what I see.
SELL the junk and duplicates. It has funded some MAJOR coin purchases.
Document remaining holdings.

If I die before my sister, she will have instructions as how to sell.
If my sister dies before me, I'll be ready to sell off everything.
Meanwhile, I am having a great time with less to worry about.

And pre-selecting a few coins to be passed on to your grandchildren, when they arrive, should
be fine with kids that themselves are not interested.

All in all, this remains a problem for many collectors. It should be faced with courage
and with responsibility.
You are both way ahead of them!

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03/14/2013 11:01 am
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If it really matters to someone, then it is up to them to leave instructions on what happens to their estate.

I have three sons, one who collects with me, and considers every coin we buy together a " prized " possession. It is an effort to get him to upgrade any coin. I have another son, that would keep the collection out of deference to the joy and relaxation he saw as I collected. My oldest, would liquidate in a second. The only time he examines my coins is to ask " how much is this worth ? " or " How can you sit on a coin that is worth $2000 "

Point being, it is up to me to make sure that these coins get into the right hands when I pass. Yes it is heart breaking to see people's life's work get sold off for pennies, but if they really cared .........
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 Posted 03/14/2013  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rking007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are really great comments! My son is 8 and we have just been collecting pennies and State Quarters so far but I know I will be getting into multiple sets of moderns and classics so it is something I've thought of as I get older. I think education is a huge part if it as well on our part towards our kids. Ultimately I will be the happiest if my kids grow up being the people they were meant to be and not what I wanted them to be so if they like coins, cool, if not, that's fine too. I will make sure, however, that they know what I do have and what it's worth is and what my wishes are for them when I go.

@matthewvincent - I've suggested to my aunt that she send the entire collection to me so I can catalog and start grading and valuing it so I'm waiting to hear from her on that. If that happens I will definitely come to you guys for help. Obviously, I hope that I can keep the collection together and in the family to be passed on but ultimately, if it has to go for bills, I can still be thankful that my grandpa had it to help pay for things even twelve years after he passed on.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bkprewitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope I can get one or my two little girls into it, or hope they someday give me a grandchild who likes collecting.

In a bit of irony, a planned liquidation of a collection passed down to me by a great aunt actually instead inspired me to dive full force back into numismatics.

She passed this modest along to me in the 1980's when I was about 12. It intrigued me at first, and I spent many hours initially searching through the family change jar to fill holes or upgrade coins.

About two years ago, I was going through clutter in a storage closet figuring out what to get rid of, and thought, let me see what Aunt Mary's coin collection is worth and I'll sell to the highest bidder. As I researched values, the only thing of any signicant value were two Indian Head cents (1867 and 1871) in G-4. Everything else was too low-grade or common. While doing the research to value the coins, I again became intrigued, and instead of reducing clutter, I've increased it the volume of coin-related "clutter" about 20 fold as I branched out into all other types of coins.

At the end of the day, I might part with the lower-end stuff from her collection or pass it along to my kiddos to get them started, but those two Indian cents I'll hold onto for quite awhile as sentimental pieces, even if I upgrade.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrMorgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to be buried with my collection.
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I wouldn't say it's a pet peeve as much as it just makes me sad. I wish everyone appreciated coins like we do, but they don't. And you're right, if no one ever sold them then we couldn't buy any.
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