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A Pet Peeve (That Is Probably Unwarranted)

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 Posted 03/14/2013  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
CoinsKelly and chesterb,

I went through a similar process some 6 or 7 years ago.
Neither children nor grandchildren. Only my sister to care for.
I did not want to sell everything, and I still wanted to collect.

Solution:
Interest sister with something aesthetic - coins are as pretty as the quilts you sew. She has gotten quite
good at seeing what I see.
SELL the junk and duplicates. It has funded some MAJOR coin purchases.
Document remaining holdings.

If I die before my sister, she will have instructions as how to sell.
If my sister dies before me, I'll be ready to sell off everything.
Meanwhile, I am having a great time with less to worry about.

And pre-selecting a few coins to be passed on to your grandchildren, when they arrive, should
be fine with kids that themselves are not interested.

All in all, this remains a problem for many collectors. It should be faced with courage
and with responsibility.
You are both way ahead of them!

Edited by matthewvincent
03/14/2013 11:01 am
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 Posted 03/14/2013  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list
If it really matters to someone, then it is up to them to leave instructions on what happens to their estate.

I have three sons, one who collects with me, and considers every coin we buy together a " prized " possession. It is an effort to get him to upgrade any coin. I have another son, that would keep the collection out of deference to the joy and relaxation he saw as I collected. My oldest, would liquidate in a second. The only time he examines my coins is to ask " how much is this worth ? " or " How can you sit on a coin that is worth $2000 "

Point being, it is up to me to make sure that these coins get into the right hands when I pass. Yes it is heart breaking to see people's life's work get sold off for pennies, but if they really cared .........
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 Posted 03/14/2013  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rking007 to your friends list
These are really great comments! My son is 8 and we have just been collecting pennies and State Quarters so far but I know I will be getting into multiple sets of moderns and classics so it is something I've thought of as I get older. I think education is a huge part if it as well on our part towards our kids. Ultimately I will be the happiest if my kids grow up being the people they were meant to be and not what I wanted them to be so if they like coins, cool, if not, that's fine too. I will make sure, however, that they know what I do have and what it's worth is and what my wishes are for them when I go.

@matthewvincent - I've suggested to my aunt that she send the entire collection to me so I can catalog and start grading and valuing it so I'm waiting to hear from her on that. If that happens I will definitely come to you guys for help. Obviously, I hope that I can keep the collection together and in the family to be passed on but ultimately, if it has to go for bills, I can still be thankful that my grandpa had it to help pay for things even twelve years after he passed on.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bkprewitt to your friends list
I hope I can get one or my two little girls into it, or hope they someday give me a grandchild who likes collecting.

In a bit of irony, a planned liquidation of a collection passed down to me by a great aunt actually instead inspired me to dive full force back into numismatics.

She passed this modest along to me in the 1980's when I was about 12. It intrigued me at first, and I spent many hours initially searching through the family change jar to fill holes or upgrade coins.

About two years ago, I was going through clutter in a storage closet figuring out what to get rid of, and thought, let me see what Aunt Mary's coin collection is worth and I'll sell to the highest bidder. As I researched values, the only thing of any signicant value were two Indian Head cents (1867 and 1871) in G-4. Everything else was too low-grade or common. While doing the research to value the coins, I again became intrigued, and instead of reducing clutter, I've increased it the volume of coin-related "clutter" about 20 fold as I branched out into all other types of coins.

At the end of the day, I might part with the lower-end stuff from her collection or pass it along to my kiddos to get them started, but those two Indian cents I'll hold onto for quite awhile as sentimental pieces, even if I upgrade.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrMorgan to your friends list
I'm going to be buried with my collection.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thestew to your friends list
I wouldn't say it's a pet peeve as much as it just makes me sad. I wish everyone appreciated coins like we do, but they don't. And you're right, if no one ever sold them then we couldn't buy any.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
rking007,
I am hoping your aunt is OK with this idea.
When you get the collections inventoried, the next step is to be
present at any appraisal. Indeed, I would present just one set and get a "feel"
of the appraiser's knowledge. If he/she is low balling you, run.
If not, say, "We have a few other sets."

And to everyone, no child or grandchild will ever be excited by coins unless
you spend a rainy day together looking at them. Time spent with family can neither
be graded by a TPG nor CAC stickered. No price guide can determine its worth.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skyshark124 to your friends list

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I get pretty burned when I hear about teenage kids who inherit collections and just go off and sell them for whatever and then end up spending the money on booze or video games or whatever. That, is just disrespectful.


I got a whole bunch of foreign coins and some very nice silver US coins from this kid who walked into the coin store I frequent and said "My grandpa left me this junk. I just want to sell it." The dealer asked him to wait a moment since he was with a customer. The kid got impatient and walked out. I went out and asked if he would sell some of the collection to me. Got a TON of old Canadian cents, 3 Morgan dollars, 10 Walking Liberty halves, a War Nickel set, 4 Barber quarters and 5 Mercury dimes. I asked how much he wanted for it...he gave it to me for $50.00. Usually I feel bad for taking advantage of people, but that kid had no respect for what he had. Nothing in that bag was "junk." I'll take good care of it.


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I'm going to be buried with my collection.


I seriously though about putting this in my will.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
I am neither saddened or upset by this. It is this simple. Would you be saying the same thing if these were collections of Elvis Plates? Plenty of grandfathers out there have spent years collecting THOSE. I am quite sure you would not argue with someone selling off that collection.

When it comes down to it, they are just coins. A commodity. If the person holding that commodity sees nothing BUT a commodity, they sell it. I don't blame them in the least bit. How you or I would look at it matters not.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chesterb to your friends list

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I'm going to be buried with my collection.


I'm sure you were joking but in case you weren't...What kind of solution is that? You'd be better off giving it to a homeless shelter or a needy family. At least they could use it.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allranger to your friends list
I have a lot of older relative/friends of the family that have passed away. Some of the stuff that they collected was just not worth it. My dad sometimes feels the need to keep stuff because it was so-and-so's. I keep somethings, most other stuff I pass on to people who are interested in it. I hate all those little knicknacks that some people hoard. If I kept everyone that came my way through the years I'd have thousands of them. I am willing to part with them for much less than they are 'worth' if they are going to someone who will enjoy them.

I know from our perspective someone who wants to get rid of an inherited coins collection seems 'strange,' but I am sure we seem weird to the people that collect the kitch, franklin mint plates, snoopy figurines, happy suns, etc. (Ignoring the fact that a coin is really worth something... )

Sure some punk selling off his grandfathers collection for beer money is sad, but at the same time he probably wasn't very respectful of his grandfather when he was alive anyway, and in my book that is a way bigger problem. Stuff is stuff and when you are dust you aren't going to care. I would much rather have my coins go to someone who would care, I would prefer it be someone I am related to but if not, oh well.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverEye to your friends list

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And to everyone, no child or grandchild will ever be excited by coins unless
you spend a rainy day together looking at them. Time spent with family can neither
be graded by a TPG nor CAC stickered. No price guide can determine its worth.


matthewvincent gets it.
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 Posted 03/14/2013  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mds308 to your friends list
MrMorgan,

I just cleared an area for you in my crawlspace. Unfortunately, there's only room for you but I promise to take good care of the coins .
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 Posted 03/14/2013  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
This thread is a real eye opener for me as it touches on my early life and also today. When I was a teenager in the 1950s we visited an uncle in Arizona. His next door neighbor was an avid coin collector and he and I really connected. He brought me some coins every day during my stay and not that they were valuable - the man was awesome and so generous to a 14 year old. A couple of years later I heard that the neighbor had died and had left his huge coin collection to my uncle. I asked my Dad to talk to uncle and offered my entire net worth of $20 to get me some of the coins. Alas, uncle sold everything to the first bidder and bought cigars, booze, and went to Vegas. Of course, that was his choice so I accept that.

Rolling ahead to 2013 I have a substantial collection and many old coins minted during the infancy of our country. I'm 68 and my daughter and son show no interest in being collectors. I've documented my collection for them in a database with prices I've paid, and Redbook/Bluebook prices in case either of them want to sell and get a reasonable return for these awesome coins.

I do have a 10 year old grandson and a six year old grand daughter and will explore their interest, but it's really too early for them to understand all of this.
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 Posted 03/15/2013  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrMorgan to your friends list
Well mds308...that would be cheaper than buying a plot and stone...let me think about it.
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