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Shotgun Rolls Of Nickels...waste Of Time?

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 Posted 03/14/2013  11:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add samsnate to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just started roll searching nickels. What's the deal with the shotgun rolls? I know for silver dimes quarters etc etc its a waste of time, pennies..they were not too bad at getting old ones but what about nickels. Do the hold old ones in them rolls? These are Canadian rolls. Any insight would be appreciated. Cheers.
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 Posted 03/15/2013  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not knowing about Canadian rolls; are you talking about rolls of U.S. nickels. Anyway as far as roll searching I have found a few old nickels but unless you get a box (that looks like it has older coins) your in for an unpleasant surprise. Last box I got had 97% 2011 nickels with a few 2000 to current nickels. What a disappointment that was.
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 Posted 03/15/2013  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guys,let me say something about roll searching from the perspective of 10 years of experience. It is all about numbers. The more you look through the more you will find. Don't get hung up on the ratios per roll,etc.. It is an interesting discussion but if you base your expectations on it you will be really disappointed. As an example,I have found 5 Liberty nickels,all in a single customer wrapped roll along with 8 dated buffaloes. That was a once in a lifetime roll. If that had been my first roll and I was hung up on the statistics I would have quit after one box. My point is,there are NO RELIABLE STATS for roll searching. Just treat it as a treasure hunt and enjoy the ride,it will be more fun that way.
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 Posted 03/15/2013  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I totally disagree with hocking... the more volume you do, the more you see trends come out. Of course there are outliers, but after so many boxes of any denomination, you know that if you pick up and search say, 5 boxes, you should expect to get a certain amount of what you're looking for. There are outliers (I once had a box of nickels with 46 V-Nicks) of course, but the outliers are the treasure... the rest of the time, you're producing repeatable results.
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 Posted 03/15/2013  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samsnate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with last 2 statements. Don't get hung up and that there are trends. I was just curious because the bank here doesn't give out many free empty rolls and if it going to be a bust then I wont. But if there are some to find then I will pick up some empty rolls. Just curious about peoples luck with nickels.
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 Posted 03/15/2013  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess my point was missed. After hundreds of boxes you will of course see some trends, but they are just that, trends. If you find your stats show a buffalo every 2.5 boxes and you go get 5 boxes expecting to find 2 buffaloes, you will more than likely be disappointed. All thatI Iam saying is, don'gauge your success on those numbers. Numbers will vary from place to place and from time to time. As an example, Ihave found over 200 War Nickels from rolls, most from 5 to 10 years ago, the last 5 years the numbers have dropped off. Same is true for buffaloes. If IExpect to find them at the same rate today I Will probably be sorely disappointed. Again, I am not down on statistics, I just don't determine my success or failure from them.
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 Posted 03/15/2013  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hockingzig I do tend to agree with you. I really look at it as a treasure hunt. I still say the older the coins look in the box the better you search will be. Of course I realize that is not possible or easy to do; especially when the teller is getting em for you. But if you on good terms with them even that is possible.
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 Posted 03/17/2013  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i am in canada as well. I personally have more success with customer wrapped rolls than any shotgun wrapped roll.The mint has a metals recovery program that is taking the valuable coins out of circulation here. ie. nickel, silver, and used to be copper pennies. I do dimes and quarters and I ask for hand wrapped rolls, either the plastic or paper re-closeable , and have more luck with these rolls as the shotgun style rolls tend to be all newer coins.
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 Posted 03/18/2013  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladhunter13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By "Shotgun Rolls"...are you talking about the white rolls with blue or red lettering on them? If they are the wrappers I mentioned and both ends are still machine crimped then I must ask another question as well. What is the date stamped on the box? Since aprox 2011...Distribution Center (white wrappers with blue or red lettering here in Canada) rolls most likely will not have anything older then a 2000 in it. This is for nickels. I would check a few to be sure but I have not found a nickel older then 2000 in these rolls for over a year now. I would give up on them but I still keep the 2000P and 2001 No P nickels. You never know...you may find a error mixed in amongst them as well. It depends on what you are looking for. As of recent...the Distribution center has also started wrapping in the clear plastic tube wraps just like the Canadian Mint uses. Be sure to check them as I thought I had hit a box of mint nickels until I started to check the ends and noticed mixed dates. Then I also checked the seal on the box and noticed it was not the normal for a Mint sealed box.
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03/18/2013 5:08 pm
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 Posted 03/18/2013  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samsnate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just an update... checked 3 rolls...nothing older than 1999. Bailed on the box.
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