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Natural Or Artificially Toned Morgan Dollars

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Hello all, I'm new to this forum and I'm not sure if this is the correct place to upload a picture of a Morgan dollar I have that is rainbow toned. I was wondering if this is natural toning or if someone had artificially toned it. These pictures were taken using an iPhone in low light conditions and aren't the best quality. I paid only $32 for the coin which is an excellent price for such a beautiful coin. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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 Posted 03/15/2013  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CGCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Toning does not look natural to me. Normally there would be more luster for toning to be rainbow(Such as a proof quality luster)
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I also think it is artifically toned. Usually you don't see toning like that on both sides of a coin, and, as pointed out, the toning does not look "bright."
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It's artificial. Either cooked, chem'ed or both.
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The coin has nice colors but I don't think it is natural either. Even common circulated silver dollars are going for about $32 so I don't think you can go wrong.
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 Posted 03/15/2013  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeAlaimo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your answers. From what I've been reading online, I thought that this coin was artificially toned.
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Mike

one thing to check on a toned coin is whether or not the toning floats on the surface or if it looks smoothed over into the surface. The latter could be a good indication of AT.
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If you are looking for genuine naturally toned Morgans this site is a good read. http://www.jhonecash.com/coins/tonedmorgans.asp

And to CCF Mike.
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dave700x Thank you for the link to the website. I love learning new info about my favorite type coin. I LOVE Morgan silver dollars!
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I'll give you $35 and you can take your profit and buy another one ;)
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Definitely artificial. The colors "float" (like an oil slick) evenly across both the raised and lower surfaces.
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ahhh....the AT vs NT debate.

How do we determine if oxidation is naturally occurring or in some way enhanced by man.
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Still a nice looking coin.
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Thanks for the offer thestew, but this coin is not for sale. I just wanted to find out more info about the toning on the coin.
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This is one reason I don't dabble in toned coins. There are some that are obviously 'induced' toning, but so many more that you just can't tell.
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And all real or natural toned coins will follow the colors of the rainbow in spectrum of colors, example the blue and red will never touch. When looking at tonning make sure to examine all the little shelfs around lettering, stars, etc. look for voids and or a look of painted on color, many times the toning is fake and caused by pouring a liiquid or two over the coin and heating it. This can also be done by baking a sliver dollar in a potatoe (seriously) it's the starch that accelerates the color. A not so secret a lot of dealers used to do pre 1990's.
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