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Edited by glenzy1
03/15/2013 4:02 pm
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Looks not so good to me.
Edited by doubleeagle59
03/15/2013 6:37 pm
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This is as large as I could get the date before losing too much focus...  Something's wrong in the upper left quadrant of the 3... At first I thought maybe it was a flat top 3 rubbed down... or maybe an 1898 with the 8 changed to look like a 3... But after checking in Charlton, neither the flat top 3 nor the 1898 had a narrow 1 or a large 9... My opinion is that this is a genuine round top 3... but with a smudge on the 3... cameron93 |
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edited my post....see below.
Edited by doubleeagle59
03/15/2013 6:37 pm
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Cameron, Glenzy and everyone..... I think the 93 round top IS bogus. Have a look at these pictures. One from a catalogue of a genuine 'round top 3'...notice the middle bar of the three and its placement with the end of the lower loop of the three. Now compare with the second pic which is the ebay coin being sold.   Looks VERY different to me. Hmmmmmm....... |
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Yes, it does look different... But whatever smudged the knob at end of upper loop also smudged knob at end of lower loop... This IS a genuine coin... too bad about the damage to the most critical part of this rare variety... very nice coin otherwise. I dearly wish this could be another one of the hundreds I've cracked out of NNC slabs in the past... :)   cameron93 |
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I agree it's a genuine coin.
It's just not a genuine 1893 round top, imho.
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Looking at the photos, it looks like a squashed 8 to me.
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Nope... can't be a squashed 8...  Charlton Catalogue dime variety edition shows all 4 varieties of the 1898 dime have the much different looking "Wide 1" in the date... Also, the genuine 1893 flat top 3 has "Wide 1"... The coin in question has the "Narrow 1" which is same as 1893 round top 3...  cameron93 |
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 From the seller's scan's this appears to be an authentic Round Top. Keep in mind that the Round Top 3 regardless of it's grade is notorious of a weakly struck 3 , consistent with the strike of the Era. It can't be a modified Flat Top because the Three has a "straight" mid section also consistent with a Round Top and the Knobbed ends on the three (3) are unlike any modified "8". This leads me to believe it's an authentic Round Top 3. The only thing about this auction that perplexes me is why would the seller chance a potential $10K coin on a "no reserve" auction? Would you if this was your coin? Glenn  Edited by glenzy1
03/15/2013 9:03 pm
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In the ebay coin I see the end of the lower loop in the three parallel or just about touching the end of the middle bar of the 3. With the authentic round top 3, there is quite a gap between these two ends and the bottom of the loop is quite a bit lower than the end of the middle bar. This is what is ringing the alarm bells for me. |
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Hi Glenn... hope all's going well with you and yours... :)
Hey, you gotta' remember who the seller is...
Often what occurs on his sales can seem quite "sense-less"... LOL
Often much more madness than method... but it seems to be working for him...
I've seen lots of rare variety coins sell for high numbers in his sales... but I'm guessin' this one will be the highest ever...
Take care, and Have a Great Weekend!
cameron93
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Ever wonder if Censtles and Asyn are related? When you look at Censtles feedback at 150,000 and at 99.5 % satisfactory, that by itself is phenomenal. I don't believe I've ever seen an E-bay seller at this level ever? Anyhow, I certainly won't be the high bidder on this auction because I figure it will go between $6,000-$8,000.00. I'm very reluctant to bid on any coin at this level that has not been Certified by I.C.C.S. It is an interesting auction to watch and I urge all C.C.F. to keep an eye on this one, at least for a learning experience! Glenn  Glenn  Edited by glenzy1
03/15/2013 9:18 pm
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Sometimes bidders such as these have been accused to have schill bidders to protect their low starting price.
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There won't be any need for shill bidders on this auction... he's got a big following that tunes into his sales...
Always a tremendous amount of legitimate bidding... pushing sale prices up to ridiculous amounts... especially when you consider that most of the stuff is extremely over-graded...
Subject has been covered numerous times before in these posts... it's really unfortunate that many of the buyers are uneducated and inexperienced novices getting burned... :(
cameron93
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So as the evidence has been presented,
How does every stand?
Is the coin an authentic 1893 round top '3'?
I vote 'NO'.
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