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I just writing this looking for a little boost in energy from the people here on this site. Trying to keep some forward momentum stacking silver. Seems that silver is stuck in neutral with no big breakout in site. Would like to see $34 again to off load some metal to pay for my daughters forth coming wedding. Will we ever see $50/oz. again? Just wondering. Anybody else feeling this way?
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 Posted 03/21/2013  04:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The problem with stagnating silver prices is that the American and World economies are slowly recovering after the GFC.
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 Posted 03/21/2013  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the presently depressed spot level is the greatest incentive to buy I could dream of. I'm not overjoyed that the value of my stack is down, but I see present
product prices as a major incentive to buy. I wish I could double the monthly amount I sink into PM's.

I sympathize with your being in a position where you may need to sell some part of your stack. Now isn't a good time to be doing that. I thought the Cypriot bank
problem this week was going to launch PM spots, but all we got was a half-hour pop and then a fizzle and nothing. If that didn't goose PM spots back up, I think
they've seriously settled into the zone where they are and your daughter's wedding will likely be a memory before anything changes much.

On the $50/oz thing... I'm definitely not holding my breath on that one.
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 Posted 03/21/2013  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rgathright to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My biggest fear is another drop to $25 or lower.

Also, the ebay markets have gotten stale with high prices and little to pick from.
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Also, I have been putting most of my silver funds into AMD HD 6950 graphics cards.

Why? Well I make Litecoins with them. The Litecoin market has jumped as high as $.65 in the past few weeks. I make 20 Litecoins or more per day.

As a result, I have managed to convert those Litecoins into several Englehard and ASE's. So yes, I still buy silver but using the new crypto-currency rush!
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 Posted 03/21/2013  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add miggs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Needing money to finance your daughter's wedding is one thing.
But if you're worried about the fiat price, you shouldn't...
It's all about ounces and the accumulation of them


Quote:
Seems that silver is stuck in neutral with no big breakout in site


I heard that when silver was $15,$20,$25 etc
Here's a short video that might re-enforce your original beliefs in silver;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IiarVvZguY
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 Posted 03/21/2013  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldnt pay any attention to that youtube video
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 Posted 03/21/2013  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add miggs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@basebal21

Why don't you enlighten us all on why you wouldn't
pay any attention to this video? I'm curious to know
from you, if the facts in it are erroneous or whatever
is wrong with it. Thanks
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 Posted 03/21/2013  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The video is put out by futuremoneytrends.com -- The little box inside the opening screen says "Silver Investments Click here to learn how to profit
from it" and the title of the text below is "Silver Shortage This Decade, Silver Will Be Worth More Than Gold".

This is a video that's put out by a business whose mission is to get prospective customers to send them money. Their gig is clearly stated as silver
investments and their video is a tool designed to help them accomplish their mission. The video is obviously not news. It's just commercial advertising.

My uncanny sense of suspicion has been aroused. I suspect this video will not be objective and professional economic news reportage of the quality I'd
expect from Reuters, AP or UPI. I further suspect this video is one more alarmist hustler-style corporate sales pitch and I have no interest in hearing even
one syllable of it. If I had $1 for every time I've been hit with that "Send me your money" crap I'd be a multimillionaire.

However -- anybody who wants to subject themselves to that video is welcome to do so and anybody who wants to send that company their money is
also welcome to do that as well. Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice and it's a free country.

That having been said, it's appropriate to get back onto the thread subject and not go hijacking this thread off into Sales Pitch Adorationland.
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 Posted 03/21/2013  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add miggs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Freddy, that is a great comment as usual.
I didn't go off the thread by posting the link, it was
intended for rastatodd in the hopes to boost moral, no
more no less. The video is well made and factual.
For the record, I have nothing to do with that company
nor did I sent them a penny. I've been a silver stacker
for 6 years and I know exactly how ratatodd is feeling right now.
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 Posted 03/21/2013  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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@basebal21

Why don't you enlighten us all on why you wouldn't
pay any attention to this video? I'm curious to know
from you, if the facts in it are erroneous or whatever
is wrong with it. Thanks


Fat Freddy hit the nail right on the head. I would add that 99 percent of articles or videos like that are written by people who have a financial interest in you investing in silver or gold.

I watched about a minute and the video was trying to imply silver is more valuable than gold and will one day cost more. I cant think of a single time in history when that was true. Silver has industrial uses because it was/is relatively cheap, as soon as that changes industry will move onto a different metal lowering the demand. They weren't necessarily lying about anything, but they weren't telling the whole story. They certainly started with a conclusion and worked backwards to support it in my opinion.

Theres nothing that suggests we are running out of silver anytime soon. There are shortages from time to time for product that has to be made or minted, but theyre arent shortages of actual supply. The mines arent dry, there are more mines out there, mining technology is getting better to get more silver from them, and the higher price makes some of the harder to get to stuff economically viable to go get. Not to mention a lot of it gets melted down and recycled and when you recycle electronics now they are recovering the pms from it.

Theres a lot of different reasons why people stack silver and depending on the reason the buy points will be different. But I dont think that people should be getting their reasons from people who are trying to sell it to them.
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Ras-

Trying to get an exact time frame and exact price,,, is next to impossible. The best thing we have going is understanding trends and prices.

For the time being, silver and gold continue to be locked in a downtrend. As of today, they are still trading sideways in a range. The break of this range however will be very telling as to where silver and gold go next...

as I wrote about a month ago, this range could go on for a long time so be prepared for when it does break.

Again, tho, gold and silver are trending down. Trends tend to follow the path of least resistance.

For someone who is long term, having gold and silver are not bad to keep around. I suspect, because economic conditions are getting better we are seeing money rotating out of gold and silver, and prices could continue to go lower, however the market always decides whats going to happen next.

For the time being, I wouldnt count on sky high PM prices. At best you are looking at a long time of just sideways chop.
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 Posted 03/21/2013  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to one and all for the peep talk and some real good information. I guess I have to look at prices in the $28 range as a way to cost average as much as possible. I remember not to long ago remarking to someone at work that gold has passed $300/oz. Now look at it. The same way with silver. In the 90's silver was trading for as little as $4/oz. Now we are at $28. I read about how the big boys namely JP Morgan might have a hand in manipulating silver prices. If this is true. When will our government investigate such acquisitions. I have a feeling they won't. Lobbyists with deep pockets tend to keep many powerful politicians in their vest pockets. What I am saying, can the little guy truly win this fight. I hope so, for all our financial well being. Just a thought.
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What I am saying, can the little guy truly win this fight. I hope so, for all our financial well being. Just a thought.


I dont really understand what you mean by this?

If you mean being able to buy it and watch it skyrocket to make money the answer would be no. If it were that easy everyone would do it
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 Posted 03/21/2013  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add miggs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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When will our government investigate such acquisitions. I have a feeling they won't


You're right...they won't, they can't, because
the ongoing game is in sustaining the faith in that
paper money we all slave for and keeping silver
down is part of it, unfortunately. So,while JP Morgan
and now HSBC are making tons of money shorting silver,
they help the govs. maintain face in this wonderful
financial system we all share.BUT there is a chance
this might all come to a nasty end, so;

Keep stacking
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basebal21,
What I mean is trying to make precious metal commodities market a even playing field for everyone involved, both big and small players. Where the price of an ounce of AG is allowed to achieve it's rightly due price without being artificially suppress by a minority for the benefit of the few. Free market at work, if at all possible. Here's hoping.
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