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Bedrock of the Community
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In efforts to clean off my desk, I have a few older coins I would like to get opinions/help with. I started a page in a album to put coins into, that may have circulated in the the U.S. The copper coins are very worn. I would like to post one or two at a time and hope to get some information on them .. if possible First coin I am fairly sure it is a colonial. In hand I can see "AUCTORI", bust facing left. The reverse, I can make out "INDE ET" Also do coins in this condition have any value?   |
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Connecticut Copper Bust Left. 1787 most likely.
Value: $10-15 if a more common variety.
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Bedrock of the Community
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WOW .. that was fast .. I will grab my books and see if I can find it now that I have
a good direction.
let me see if I can find another
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Bedrock of the Community
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#2 1760 George II copper. Obverse I can make out "GEOR IVS II REX" (maybe) Reverse "HIBERNIA 17 60" Did this coin circulate in the colonies?   |
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While it is possible, perhaps even likely, that some of these Regal issues (actually issued in 1762 after George II death) made their way to Colonial America. General consensus is that they did not circulate. These as well as the Voce Populi are accepted by some into the rather vague definition of Colonial coins.
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03/23/2013 5:02 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks amida17. I think I get to reading and may not get a full understanding. My latest book mentions
that immigrants would come from all over Europe and bring their native countries coins with them .. and trade/spend them.
I am guessing this is different than coins that were... officially sent to the colonies or made in the colonies for commerce.
So with these I get stuck .. weather to put them into my world coin 2X2 box, or place them with my coins used in America section.
edit .. there must be a class of coins .. like in the northern states today .. where Canada coins circulate.
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03/23/2013 5:11 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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It would probably hang out with my colonials if it were mine..
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03/23/2013 5:13 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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So these coins might be better going into the world coin boxes? two George II   two George III (one thin and one very thin)     |
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Regal issues of various types did in fact make their way here, brought by immigrants at various times. The problem with Colonial America and the usage of these coins was weight. Many did not add up to par with the Colony issues such as were intended for Vermont, Connecticut, New Jersey for example. The outbreak of the Revolutionary War didn't help much either. Only through legislative approval were British issues used as currency. An example of such a coin would be the St. Patrick coppers used in West New Jersey.
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Yes, I'd put them with World coins.
Only coins associated or affiliated with the U.S. Colonies is what I go by.
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Not really sure what these next two are. 1761 (EIN KREUTZER), quarter in pic for size Obverse reads "FRANCRI SAGEIER REX"   XX17 obverse what I can read "ferdin V(unreadable) REX" reverse has coat of arms, two lions and two castles   |
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First one I'm quite confident is German. Next one I'm guessing is French.
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Pillar of the Community
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2nd is Spanish 1/2 escudo....I believe. First is Austrian Franz I
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03/23/2013 5:38 pm
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Ah, Austrian. Good job Vinnie :-)
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What I am thinking, from what I read, after we one independence. We had a need for coinage to have a growing commerce. I know Spanish real coins were legal tender until 1858 (if I remember right). how about other countries? Like these (I'm not hoping one way or the other, just want to put them in the right box. 1779 and 1808   1817   I do have Mexico 8R 1787 and a Bolivia 8R 1808 ( I forgot to take pictures of) |
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The one real definitely circulated. I have seen several detector digs that were pulled out of the ground around here (upstate NY). Alas, not found by me. :-(
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