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Pillar of the Community
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Hard to see in that oil, but none of the obvious signs are there.
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Carmykle - Sorry if it's a dumb question, but what do you mean by "hard to see in that oil"? The pictures came from the person I got them from and they didn't have any oil on them when I received them.
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Pillar of the Community
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Ahhh, I love Morgan's, such beautiful coins! I definitely focus my collecting on Morgan's more than anything else..
Your 1921 doesn't appear cleaned, or at least not anything that would warrant a details grade if slabbed (which I wouldn't recommend) but it also doesn't appear AU,MS, it's definitely circulated, I'd guess around an EF. It appears to just be toning on the 1921, they usually tone from the edges in, sometimes attractive brilliant rainbow colors, sometimes less appealing darker tones. And it doesn't appear to have any luster left which you would expect to see on an UNC Morgan. Nice coins though! Gotta love a Morgan!
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Thank you, good information. I'm still learning the grading of coins and any help is appreciated.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Neither look "Improperly Cleaned" and that's the main issue. Both could have had an old, light cleaning but those are considered market acceptable as "problem-free".
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NathanASE- why do you not recommend slabbing? Is it just unnecessary?
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No problem, we all love to help out and see everyones coins! As for grading, this site will help you a bunch, it's probably one of the best resources for grading examples, pretty darn close on grades, close as your going to find anywhere. I'd have to say the best way is probably to check slabbed examples in hand, but photo grade's a lot easier than trying to track down a slabbed example in all the grades your considering.. So definitely check I out, I'm sure you'll enjoy it! (That is if you didn't already know about it  ) (A side note to mention is "always buy the coin and not the slab", as some are slabbed wrong... Even by the major third party graders. Not common, but not to rare either. Learning to grade for yourself is invaluable) http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/ |
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I wouldn't recomend having it slabbed professionally... Only because the cost would basically be the value of the coin's. I'm not 100% sure of PCGS, NGC or ANACS's (top 3 third party graders) prices at the moment, but I'm pretty sure there still around the value of the coin. I know that unless you have a dealer submit it for you, for PCGS and NGC at least you have to subscribe for the year and you get free submitions with your membership. But... you still have to pay shipping (insured) so it would still be pricy (on top of the expensive membership fee) Basically if I buy a EF Morgan for $30/35, and then pay well over $25 to have it slabbed if I were to see sell it it would still only be worth the $30/35 I bought them for, so I would loose money (although I rarely sell coins, lol). On the other hand if I cherry pick high grade raw Morgan's, (which I love to do), and I think it has a chance at MS-65, or pick up a rarer key date or nice VAM I want attributed I wouldn't hesitate at all in considering getting it slabbed. Anything less I just buy the same slabs and put them in myself for display and to keep um safe. If you don't mind me asking, what do you want them slabbed for? For the grade? Or to preserve them? |
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Coins look great! Definetly not cleaned
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If they were cleaned, it was light and done a long time ago. They both look "problem free" to me.
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Thanks again to everyone, good to know they aren't "problem coins".
NathanASE - I only considered the slabbing to help preserve them especially the '21 as it has nice details. I currently have it in a cardboard 2x2 (as I do all my coins) just not sure if that is an adequate way to store them.
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ray,
on the last point, a 2X2 cardboard holder is perfectly acceptable for storage of circulated coins.
However, for dollar coins the thickness is a bit of a concern. I like to use plastic flips for them
and staple the open side to prevent the coin from falling out.
Your '21 is of a higher grade than the '82 and explains why it has not acquired
that LOVELY dark tone!
Save the grading fees and buy a third and fourth dollar!
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Pillar of the Community
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agreed
dont spend the money to slab those
buy some more coins with your budget for now
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That's what I'll do, I'm selling a lot of foreign silver coins in order to purchase more Morgan and Peace dollars. I really like the American silver dollars although the older seated liberty and Trade dollars are for the most part expensive and in poor condition compared to the Morgan and Peace dollars that I've found. |
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