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Pillar of the Community
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Before I start I will confess first. I both buy and sell coins, and each with equal passion. With a spanking new one-year-old in the family my wife and I were finding it hard to keep our coin collecting hobby alive without selling. To keep our collection going we now buy more then we intend to keep from the mint, dealers, and other collectors, then sell the extras to feed the collection. Our goal evolved into paying off our collection with the profit and we're close to half way there. We now enjoy selling as much as we do collecting, as we've met good people all over the world that we now keep regular non-buying/selling-related correspondence with. I know that one reason or one method used to sell is not more noble then the other. I also feel that there's absolutely nothing wrong with flipping and making a buck. But is this Canadian NCLT forum the place for sellers/flippers to be ubiquitously vocal about it?I joined the CCF forum for knowledge on coins. Though I've only mainly been active in this NCLT forum and the Precious Metals one, I've learned a lot about the design and use of dies, evolution of RCM's frosting (canadian_coins's posts are awesome~), resources for coin collecting (coin_chick's display with easels was an eye-opener), and so much more..... BUT, there's close to none of that now. The last 10 threads here were all warped into, if it didn't blatantly start off as, threads based solely on price and value, sales and sellers, and "how many coins were you able to get" type posts. The one thread in a long time that opened with "review" in the title has nothing on the design, workmanship, or anything technical about the coin itself... No offence to any of the posters. These threads were interesting reads and informative in their own right. But, they feel just so out of place. I would suggest RFD as an equally inviting/supportive forum for value and sales related threads.Again I stress I sell, in fair volume too, as well. I just don't feel this is the right place for these and other supply/demand related topics. It's depressing to see a forum so full of experienced and collectors with so much knowledge and insight on numismatic and semi-numismatic coins go to waste.Edited by poboxw
03/30/2013 11:51 pm
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New Member
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I think these are good points to bring up. How many people even know about the RFD thread? I myself came over here from RFD because it was more about the collecting and not just supply/demand.
Although it seems natural that the talk will end up going towards supply and demand, it doesn't matter in whatever crowd. The Mint is making popular products and precious metals are popular these days. Things sell out fast and why that is, is something to talk about.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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You can talk about both but I don't see too many people trying to talk about anything but new coins when was the last time someone posted about older nclt just to talk about it. It goes both ways
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Valued Member
Canada
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I think for me, the reason I talk about newer NCLT is because I'm new to coin collecting. I've been mostly a collector of circulation coinage since I was a child (think randomly throwing coins into cookie tins that a young girl would think is valuable). So my exposure to NCLT is limited by only what I see now or what I want to try to find from a few years back.
As I don't have much experience, I often can't contribute to posts except when I'm providing my own opinion.
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It all has it's place. Coin collecting as far as I know has always been about supply and demand. Whether you're in it to solely collect, flip to support your collection, or purely flip, most posters here offer some valuable insight into the hobby. I think there could be less 'I spend X amount per month' type posts, and 'I got X number of coins', otherwise I read through pretty much every thread in the NCLT forum. I value what people have to say even if I don't agree with it. It'd be a dull place if nobody offered insight into what's going on (be it insights into the Mint, thoughts on new coins, valuation, arbitrage, etc.)
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't see too many people trying to talk about anything but new coins No, you're right. But value, mintage, and whether someone has bought or can/can't buy a coin is ALL that's being talked about. New or old, this forum is turning into a resource for people looking to buy and almost nothing else. This forum is becoming duller for it. There's next to nothing posted on the design, the artists, the technology, etc. Yet 6+ page threads abound reviewing coins nobody's seen in person yet and debating whether a coin will double in price. @cookiecutter: that is how I started as well, quarters and loonies in circulation turning into NCLT, bullion, and Canadian numismatic coins. And I'm not ripping on anybody's opinions be it on newer or older coins. I agree completely with Dr_Butcher that all these more recent threads are good reads. It's just getting awfully monochromatic. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I agree with you poboxw too but would you rather it be like the aussie section where you get only 1 or 2 post every 3 days
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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What if they had a flipper forum , then the rest of us could choose whether or not to read it. I have never seen Canadians behave in such a manner ! What values are we promoting when our youngster, who are starting out, read these posts. I understand enyoying reselling coins, why not become an authorized dealer, with a discount. There are very few Canadian dealers, especially in the rural areas. Then no one would be stepping on each others toes. This really has become a hot button topic. Happy Easter !!
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Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
981 Posts |
Red flag deals a forum site
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Valued Member
Canada
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I kind of agree with OP. I'm new to this site, and I know at the beginning this forum was actually about coins. Now all I see here is people complaining about either a coin not going up in value, or a coin someone can't get because it went up too much in value.
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Valued Member
Canada
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When I first lurked around here, there were a lot of anti-resale posts. If you even mention that you bought an extra coin to potentially sale, you were in for a treat.
It has changed and the influence probably came from RFD because that thread can chew through 20 pages on a good day and not organized.
I also don't understand why people boast about the volume they have. It just draws a target on yourself.
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Valued Member
Canada
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at the end of day...people are buying coins because they like them...some keep them on their shelf for show, some sell them in order to buy more...i think it depends on your passion (and the size of your bank account)...I like coins and I just 'flipped' my first one...i don't intend to do it on a regular basis, but it will allow me to buy another coin later on...without selling an organ!
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Valued Member
Canada
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I think most of us who have actively participated here for some time will agree there has been changes taking place. A lot of the late posts are purely speculative and have very little to do with numismatic nature. I am not familiar with the history of this NCLT forum, but I honestly believe it's taken a lot of effort and input from a lot of people here to nurture it. The influx of speculative posts simply dilutes this culture.
I personally think a sub-forum will help deal with the elephant in the room. We can selectively choose where to post and what to read. RFDer can benefit from a better forum structure. There's room for everyone.
Happy Easter!
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...when was the last time someone posted about older nclt just to talk about it. That would be me, 19 July 2012, posting a 1965 1-cent, specimen strike... not a single person responded, probably because despite a mintage of 50 or less, there was no opportunity to "flip-for-profit"... (yes, I am being cynical and sarcastic)... https://goccf.com/t/121847&whichpage=2I concur with poboxw... the recent threads in the Canadian NCLT section give me a sour taste for the whole CCF site, and I find myself quickly losing interest here, because numismatics and studying coins should exercise the brain, and there is nothing in the NCLT forum that even comes remotely close to doing so... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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03/31/2013 03:25 am
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