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Can We Say Shill Bidding?

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 Posted 03/31/2013  10:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was watching this one and threw in a bid at the last minute and I was the second highest bidder and did not win.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1926-Sesqui...p=true&rt=nc

While searching 5 minutes later to see what others were going for I see the exact same coin relisted before the high bidder if they had been legit could even have a chance to pay for it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1926-Sesqui...em257c556a02
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 Posted 03/31/2013  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looks like it. It's definitely the same coin with the same rim nick at 3 o'clock.
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 Posted 03/31/2013  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GIcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shill bidding is a Federal crime. You could contact ebay and if an investigation proves you correct ebay may suspend their account.
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 Posted 03/31/2013  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skyshark124 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's the exact same picture. What a moron. I guess some people don't think we're very observant.
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 Posted 03/31/2013  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely report.
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 Posted 03/31/2013  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen this happen many times. There was a particular Bust Quarter I had my eye for a few weeks this winter. It was "won" and re-listed at least 3 times in one month. Needless to say after I was "outbid" the first time, I was only a spectator.

Report it if you want to. There so much of this going on there is no way to stop it. I liken it to police busting drug dealers. It's like swatting mosquitoes in a swamp.
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 Posted 03/31/2013  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like how he was to lazy to even use a different picture
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 Posted 04/01/2013  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All of the winners bids within the last 30 days were for this sellers items.
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 Posted 04/01/2013  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add craig piette to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is the complaining effective to ebay?
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 Posted 04/01/2013  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wireman09 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When a ebay seller has a %98 feedback rating and 3 negative and 1 neutral feedback in the past 12 months, I always stay away from those sellers.
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 Posted 04/01/2013  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes.. I agree with wireman09, with 98.4 % feedback, I don't even look at something like that.
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 Posted 04/01/2013  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's see, the winning bidder's bid activity is 100% with this seller. The only explanation is shill.

@jack jekel - you didn't want that one anyways. The fresh scratches on the obverse would be the only thing you see. The shill did you a favor.
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 Posted 04/01/2013  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skyshark124 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed! And besides, now that we know what kind of person this guy is, who wants to give them money anyway?
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 Posted 04/01/2013  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
shill bidding = more money for ebay in final value fees. good luck reporting.
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 Posted 04/01/2013  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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shill bidding = more money for ebay in final value fees. good luck reporting.


Oh my lord... seriously? You think ebay doesn't care about shill bidding? They will deal with it in a split second if they have hard evidence. The problem is, hard evidence is well, hard.
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The "hard" evidence may perhaps be found in this topic. If as many different ebay members as possible report the same topic:
" https://goccf.com/t/146390#1324335 "
perhaps notice will be taken.

In the meantime, let's ALL ask the seller a question:

"Who is your shill bidder?
Oh, you can follow our investigation of your questionable selling practices here:
https://goccf.com/t/146390#1324335 "

If the seller gets a dozen "questions" from a dozen different people ...

Seller is: passion4mathews1987
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04/01/2013 1:11 pm
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