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You Versus PCGS: 1807 Draped Bust Half Cent (H)

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Some very nice Draped Bust Half Cents posted. I will give it a shot at grading...
This one I see at VF-20
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im new but I would have to agree with a vf grade not sure if 20 or 25 yet but very very nice.

im jealous and drooling
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I will guess EF-40. I am guessing some of the missing of detail is strike related.
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I kind of agree with EF also, it's more strike related than actual wear. But we'll see this is the toughest one of the latest bunch to grade iMO.

I'm editing to add I'm uping to VF35 (almost EF)!
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IMO, this was one of the toughest if not the toughest to grade from all the Half Cents in this wonderful collection. I had a lot of trouble figuring out what was wear and what was strike.
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looking at this coin again, it appears that at least the reverse may have been improperly cleaned. As for soft strike vs wear, although the reverse looks like a soft strike, IMO, it is true wear from handling. looking at the top-most leaves at 12 and 1 o'clock, the leaves have worn down evenly, which you most not likely see if it was just a soft strike. any other opinions on strike vs wear?
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@westcoin: Upping your guess worked out quite well.
@panzaldi: This example displays weakness in many of the same areas on the wreath.
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@westcoin: Upping your guess worked out quite well.


Thanks, I've done okay on most of these old Half Cents, and I've gotten within a point or so of the TPGs, but when I miss - I miss big! Gotta work on that, though I'd hope I wouldn't miss badly if the coin was in my hand, and I was spending my hard earned money on it, that's for sure!

Half Cents especially the draped bust series have quickly become my new passion and Bobby's timing on these posts of fantastic old coppers has been a fantastic help to me. I'm finding strike plays such a part in older coinage, and wear can seem likely yet the TPG's still grade MS. I still have a lot to learn in copper halves, but they sure are one of the more interesting coins the US ever produced (argubly).

This Half Cent grading seminar has been most enlightning, and you D0ubl3Eagle have been right on more often than not! Way to go!
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