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1917 Standing Liberty Question

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 Posted 04/05/2013  8:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wesal94 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey guys,
So I picked up this beauty today and was curious about a couple things. First of all the pictures do NOT pick up the luster of this coin. It has a very nice luster but not overly so. Do you guys think based on these pictures that it might have been cleaned? Also what do you think it would grade if I sent it to be slabbed (assuming you don't think it has been cleaned). Thanks so much!

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 Posted 04/05/2013  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say yes, but an in hand inspection is always more final. At the least probably was dipped a couple of times over the years. I don't see anything too distracting beyond the light scratch on the reverse below the eagle's right wing. There is still reamining luster in between the lettering that hasn't been stripped by over-dipping. without closer photos to really focus on surface hairlines it looks pretty nice as pictured.
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 Posted 04/05/2013  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wesal94 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So in your opinion if I sent it in to be graded do you think that this would come back as details? I usually don't worry too much about grading but with this one I'm debating it.
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 Posted 04/05/2013  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that a rim nick under the 9 in the date?
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 Posted 04/05/2013  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wesal94 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty sure it is a little trash under the plastic. In person it looks very much like a tiny thread but it showed up more like a nick in the pictures.

Edit---actually the plastic has a small tear in it and that is what is showing after further inspection
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Looks like AU-50 or AU-53 based on the slight wear I can see. The color is suggestive of a coin that has been dipped white and has since retoned. It would be a 50-50 shot as to whether a grading service would slab it as cleaned, I think. The reverse scratch doesn't look like a "problem" in terms of TPG grading.

The head detail is slightly soft, with the border of Liberty's hair not sharply defined across her cheek. Type 1 SLQs are pretty common with Full Head detail but this one may not qualify. The PCGS price guide shows that the FH designation adds little premium; an AU-55 FH lists for $275 while a similar piece without FH detail is $255. So, the FH issue should not be a consideration for your grading decision.

Personally, I wouldn't spend the money to have this one slabbed. Enjoy it raw is my advice!
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Thanks so much for the detailed answer! I definitely feel good about what I paid for this one based on some of the prices I'm seeing there and can enjoy the coin whether raw or slabbed. Thanks again!
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A very nice addition to your collection. I'd leave this one "raw" and enjoy it as it is.

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