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1851 Liberty Head Gold Coin With Odd Design On Reverse

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Hello all,

I am completely new to this and am trying to identify a coin recently left to my family.

It is on a bracelet that also has 2, Type 1 Liberty Head Gold Dollars, and 2, Idian Head Gold Dollars. For the life of me I can't find a photo of a similar Liberty Head as this coin to identify exactly what it is.

All I can tell is that it is stamped 1851 on the front below the Liberty Head, with 13 stars around the head. The reverse has a design that appears to be made of at least 2 letters, an 'S' and an 'A', and possibly a third letter or symbol that sort of looks like a double sided 'J'.

Any help would be appreciated.

TIA.

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it was turned into a love token.

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Fuzzy317 hit the nail on the head, but to expand - A "Love Token" is a coin that was engraved and given to a lady (usually) or a child as a token of affection in the 1800's through the early 1900's primarily. One side of a coin usually chosen for the date (birthday or aniversarry, etc.) is engraved by hand with the persons initals. Love tokens are often found on charm bracelets, necklaces and even as cufflinks or stick pins.

As to a value? The coin is now damaged as a collectible coin, but many people collect Love Tokens on their own. This looks like a $2.5 dollar Liberty is it the same size as the Indian Head $2.5 coin or the Dollar sized coins? I wouldn't take less than melt value for a similar coin, even though there has been gold removed by shaving down the coin to make the engraving the artistic value makes it worth saving as a collectible. So whatever the value of a similar sized gold coin is worth in low grade or melt value is how to price this piece IMO. Now if you can find someone with the same intials as on your coin, you might be able to kick up the price a wee bit to them. It's a neat looking Love Token regardless.
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I guess I could have explained it. Thanks for covering for me.
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Thank you for solving the reverse side question Fuzzy317!
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Thanks Westcoin for elaborating.

I assumed that, being turned into jewelry, everything but spot and sentimental value was gone.

I believe you are right on the quarter eagle guess.

Another family member out of state currently has possession, but I measured the photo of the other coins (known types and thus known diameters) and proportionally compared them to the diameter of the presumed quarter eagle in the photo. Since the photo wasn't taken exactly dead on, I didn't expect an exact diameter match, but got close with approx. diameters estimated for the quarter eagle at 17.55 to 17.6 mm. These are pretty close to the 18mm it's supposed to be.

Facial features including upturned crease between lips, hair design above forehead, on side of neck, and on back of neck, as well as height of 'L' in Liberty on coronet all match the quarter eagle as well.

Again, thanks to all!

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You say it was left to your family. Your over all family or immediate family? One thing that can make these pieces much more interesting is if you know the story behind them. Who was it made for? Who gave it to them? What was the occasion? Was it just a passing infatuation or did the relationship blossom and become more permanent? Since you know where the piece came from, can you trace it back to the original owner? The initials seem to be AS and either I J or L. (You can't be sure what order the initials should be in either.) so can you track it back?
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Can you post a photo of the entire bracelet? I'm sure others besides myself would like to see it. Bracelets with multiple gold pieces as charms are not common. Though the numismatic value of the coins is gone your bracelet would still command a small premium over melt to a vintage jewelry collector.

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