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Wow! Re-Return Of Crack-Out Artist Dknies1947

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If you recall, dknies1947 was NARU'd on Dec24, 2012 for cracking-out coins. On Dec26 she created user name tracy479180540, she was than NARU'd for cracking-out coins on Mar18. Now, she's back again. This time her user ID is othodilley. She has a 1795 half dollar she just sold on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1795-silver...181106134535

She cracked this coin out of a PCGS Fine details-surfaces tooled holder:
http://stacksbowers.com/Auctions/Au...LotID=431222

of course, she makes no mention of the tooling nor the re-engraving of the dentils. This is one relentless crook.
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 Posted 04/11/2013  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another of her crack-outs:
1888 Seated quarter
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1888-seated...181115056283

Cracked-out of NGC Proof details-cleaned
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...1&lotNo=9964

Again, no mention of the known cleaning defect
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04/11/2013 01:42 am
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At least she lost money on the first one
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no money was made on the half dollar. In the hole $200+. After eBay/paypal fees, probably $250+
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I was watching that 1795 lot.

I thought that it was way over bid
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This is rather mind-boggling. I have bought several items from her and they were all great items. She even sent Indian Head cents and Buffalo nickels for my grandson since I've gotten him interested in collecting. According to her, much of the items she sold were her late dad's - a career Chicago cop (and we know they all had lotssssssss of money back in the day - well most). I even went as far as to look up his obit which matched what she said. Can't refute the evidence shown here, but I know her at a more personal level and she didn't give me any inkling of being a shyster. Just shows to go ya....... Paleoguy
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It's unfortunate that nothing can really be done to stop her. Perhaps if she gets kicked off fast enough each time, she might just get sick of trying.
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If she keeps taking a beating like on that first coin shell stop on her own
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All of her listings have now been removed. Now we need to get her NARU'd
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UPDATE: The seller, othodilley aka dknies1947, aka tracy47918040, has now been NARU'd by ebay. Good work ebay
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Whats the over/under for his/her return?
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If this is the third time, minimum, that they have done this, I think its fairly certain that they will be back.
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There are several alternatives to ebay popping-up. Hopefully, they avoid some of the pitfalls that ebay has fallen to. ebay has become a scam artists paradise and is giving the honest sellers an un-deserved black eye. You would think that the extravagant fees charged by ebay would be invested into a better screening and NARU system for the crooks. Unfortunately, the impression I get is that ebay is content with the bad seller as long as their money flows and they don't get too bad of a rap.
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There are plenty of alternatives to ebay, but it will be quite a while before any of them see almost 3% of all Internet traffic. And ebay's exorbitant fees (which still undercut any auction house with a truly usable share of the market) don't allow them to post operating margins better than average in the corporate world. It's not like they have money to throw at the problems being discussed here.

Mind you, I have no difference of opinion with any of the negative opinions in this thread. These problems truly exist. But they exist, in part, because people are trying to hold them to an unreachable standard. There isn't a great deal of difference between the standards ebay holds sellers to, and the standards you and I hold any retailer to.

Furthermore, as sellers there isn't much difference between us and any other retailer - if we can't consistently hold close to a 50% gross margin on what we're selling, we're not going to make a profit after expenses. It's that simple. It's why I'm constantly saying that selling $3 coins, anywhere, is not a moneymaking proposition. The margin pressure goes down as the value of individual sales goes up; it's why car makers want to sell you optioned-out vehicles. There's no difference.

The original poster of this thread has made it his mission to identify and expose, in a very narrow niche, people out to fleece buyers on ebay. He's holding to that narrow niche because there isn't time to do any more. Let's look at this from ebay's viewpoint:

There are currently over half a million US coins offered on ebay. Almost 400,000 World coins, counting Canada. 300,000 notes, from all issuers. How many people would it take to proactively police that? And keep in mind, viewed quantitatively as a source of potential counterfeiting, numismatics isn't their largest challenge. Name-brand clothing. Accessories. Watches. Electronics.

Profit or not, it's a physical impossibility to expect ebay to successfully police the whole arena.

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Unfortunately, the impression I get is that ebay is content with the bad seller as long as their money flows and they don't get too bad of a rap.


Hit the nail on the head. And as long as all we do about it - we, the people who constitute the "rap" - is discuss it here, ebay will continue to operate under the rules they've established. We can wring our hands until the skin shreds from our fingers, but until enough of us make it clear that the status quo doesn't cut it, they won't change.

That's on us.
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ebay has become a scam artists paradise and is giving the honest sellers an un-deserved black eye. You would think that the extravagant fees charged by ebay would be invested into a better screening and NARU system for the crooks.


Unfortunately anytime there is a really popular place to sell scam artists will flock too it.

As far as their NARU system I'm going to guess its an IP band which isn't that hard to get around and I've see people do it all the time other places. Theres just always going to be a percentage of people that do stuff like that
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