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Ebay 1970-S "Small Date" Lincoln Issue

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So this seller has a 1970-S "Small date" Lincoln Cent on auction...anyone see a problem with the listing? 281097091057
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 Posted 04/23/2013  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add half n a half to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looks large date to me
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 Posted 04/23/2013  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ebay has been plagued forever on this coin because the listers don't know, or hope the buyers don't know the difference. Once last year I saw 30 or 40% of the SD listings were actually a LD.
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I wrote the guy the following message, trying to be nice and let him know he may have an incorrectly listed item: "Hello, do you have a closer photograph of the date? The shape of the 9 on the date in the picture provided looks like the large date but I want to be sure before putting in a bit. Thank you."

The seller replied: "HI,I CAN'T TAKE A BETTER PICTURE WITH WHAT I HAVE.MY EYES ARE BAD I CAN'T TELL, I GOT THESE FROM A PERSON THAT I BOUGHT A LOT OF COINS FROM AND NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH ANY.ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS IF YOUR NOT SURE DON'T BID.WES"

So basically he's just full of crap. I emailed him back and told him: "Thank you for replying. The photograph you have posted with this auction is a large date 1970-S, which is the common variety. I'm just trying to help you out so you don't sell it to someone who is expecting a small date cent and end up with a big mess over it, if this photograph is of the actual coin you are selling."

It really bugs me when people are scamming those who only know "I have this hole in the album for a small date...oh, here's one! Buy it now!" and don't really know the difference enough to protect themselves.
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 Posted 04/23/2013  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mystic2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeh just start reporting them to e-bay its what I do, especially when he replied like that,
that is a large date 70 and he is trying to jip someone.
mailed a guy last night that had a kansas pr 69 clad listed as silver in the pcgs flag holder.
told him it wasnt silver and he said yes it was the coin is shiny silver.
then I told him if it was silver it would have silver on the label and that if it was a wrong picture
he should change it or else I would report him. I cant stand dishonest people.
youll see alot of people now listed theyre coins as pcgs ngc and anacs grade all at once when theyre raw and in a mylar flip.
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Yep, I get tired of people taking advantage of less-knowledgeable people with coins. This guy did write me back and said I could be mistaken, but I may be right (I am right though...), then asked me to look at his other 1970-S small date auction and give my input. I looked at the second auction and once again, I recognized his picture as a large date. I told him as much. We'll see what he says or does now.
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 Posted 04/24/2013  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Besides the fact that the coin is a large date I see nothing wrong with the listing
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 Posted 04/25/2013  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rking007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At least it seems like he's taking you seriously and somewhat as a learning experience. I suppose he may really not know they are LDs? I think it's interesting that he based his answer on his trust for his friend that sold it to him. Hard to listen to a stranger when you have a trusted source. Not saying anything ill towards anyone either, just my observation.
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Check this puppy out, not only a small date but it also has two heads lol...http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-S-Linc...em3f24805f91
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magicians coin? or a scammer
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I suppose he may really not know they are LDs?

I really believe this is sometimes the case. (I know I'm naive)
I went to a coin shop on vacation once, saw a 1970-s SD for sale for 8 bucks. I was thrilled and grabbed it. Upon closer inspection, it was obviously a LD and I pointed out to the owners, they said they bought it the way it was (labeled as a SD) and just put it up for sale. I believe them.
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He removed the auction in question, but still has the other one up (as of the last time I checked). I hope he really is just clueless. The fact he has been told though should lead him to remove his auctions until he can verify the coin's true SD or LD status. That's my opinion, anyway.
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When folks have a issue on facebook about a pic you just hit the spam button and the pic is gone. That's what ebay needs quick and painless and satisfied customers.
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Once last year I saw 30 or 40% of the SD listings were actually a LD.


Every time I've looked, about 80% of them are LD's.
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Check this puppy out, not only a small date but it also has two heads


LOL

The seller:


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What makes this even more rare is the misprinting with the Lincoln Head on both sides!


So, they know what a variety is but they don't know that coins are NOT printed?
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I have invested some time to research 1970 small dates. The variation is highly subjective IMHO. The only thing you can ascertain is that a 1970S isn't a small date. I enjoy hunting for coins and love the Lincoln Cents, but this variation is a tough one for me...
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