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Ebay Deal Gone Bad- What Should I Do?

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 Posted 04/26/2013  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
when I see "no returns accepted" I really pay no attention to that cause I know that if there is a problem the buyer will win anyway
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04/26/2013 10:15 pm
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 Posted 04/27/2013  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you saw the pictures and bid (and entered into a contract based on the seller's terms), sorry you are disappointed but the pictures do show exactly what you describe.

if he is willing to let you return after stating 'no returns' I would say a $30 loss in shipping is a gift to you, and you should jump all over it.
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 Posted 04/27/2013  01:21 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Frankly, the pictures show exactly what you got... the seller showed a lot of pictures, that were in focus. How would you feel if every coin in that set was a nice AU grade? What if the 1859 was a rarer variety? Would you contact the seller and offer to pay more money? We all gamble, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. In my opinion, the seller did nothing wrong here.

Frankly, you have two options:

1. If the seller is willing to refund you, sent the entire set back, and cough up the shipping.
2. You gambled and lost - a lesson learned. Next time, ask the seller for better photos, before the auction ends, or risk a bidding war and ask some of the keen-eyed folks here to provide opinions.

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 Posted 04/27/2013  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quite clearly you got what you richly deserved. The photos on my computer clearly show this lot as mere junky type coins . The cleaning and corrosion is quite obvious. Why oh why do people keep thinking Santa is a numismatic reality ? If you send it back the shipping cost is a lesson learned! Good luck!
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 Posted 04/27/2013  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frazzle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why did it cost you 15.00 to have it shipped to you when the shipping price says 10.00.....Also I dont think the seller did anything wrong considering he did clearly post the pics and you can see some of the coins were damaged
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 Posted 04/27/2013  02:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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We all gamble, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. In my opinion, the seller did nothing wrong here.


Those photos show exactly what you got. They all look obviosuly cleaned. If youre going to spend $250 on ebay it is handy to be able to pick cleaned coins from a photograph.

I would send it back and cop the $45 loss. Youve won some before so be happy with those and just learn from this one.

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 Posted 04/27/2013  06:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its funny how everyone says they can clearly tell all the coins are cleaned. to me yes the 58 looks cleaned, but the rest look like bad lighting. here is another quote from the seller:
" I looked at the pictures and cant really tell from them if they are cleaned. I did not think so when I sold them or I would have mentioned it. Had I thought they were cleaned I would have mentioned it in the description."
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 Posted 04/27/2013  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
when I buy a collection I always expect some of the coins to be damaged/cleaned just not everyone of them , and key dates like 1891 sdll should be mentioned if they are dented and bent , you cant see bent coins in a photo!
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 Posted 04/27/2013  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add middross to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with many on here. The seller has done nothing wrong. I honestly think that you asking for a partial refund is the only wrong being done here. As SPP said, if the coins were better than you hoped, would you contact the seller and offer them more money? I doubt that you would, so why should you get money back because you were hoping for better coins. You gambled and lost. A lesson learned hopefully. Return for a refund and pay shipping. Why should the seller be out money because of your mistake.
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 Posted 04/27/2013  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


The seller showed the coins as they are. If they showed up being different coins from the photo, then that would be a different story.
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04/27/2013 12:14 pm
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 Posted 04/27/2013  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
too...

The seller sounds like they are going above and beyond to work with you. Return the coins and eat the return shipping. It's the cost of taking a gamble; sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.
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 Posted 04/27/2013  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lesinwestvan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my first post I hadn't seen the auction. Once having a look at the auction, I honestly don't believe the seller was trying to hide anything. You bought exactly what was pictured. Take this as a lesson learned. I also agree with what others have said.
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should the seller tell you that a $100 coin (1891 sdll)is dented and bent? you cant tell in the picture but it is wavy like a ruffles potato chip, or should they not say anything and try to get good money for it?
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 Posted 04/27/2013  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripoli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"estate sale" "I'm not a coin grader" "found in attic" "I'm selling these for a friend" those are buzz words that coin collectors think are invitations to a deal, however, you are being sucked in, thinking you are going to out smart the seller and find the deal of the century......buyer beware. One has to be very brave to buy coins sight unseen and expecting something that is going to be valuable.
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 Posted 04/27/2013  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add middross to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't mean to offend, but buyers like you are ruining ebay. I say this in response to your statement about sellers not accepting returns. Even though the seller has not done anything wrong, you back them into a corner and as you said "the buyer always wins". Sellers know this, and have to give partial refunds even though they shouldn't have to, because otherwise you will wrongfully give them negative feedback or open a claim against them. Very poor etiquette IMO.
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