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I purchased a 1917 1c Can that has a NGC MS66 grade but cant find a value for it in my Charlton book?
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At those grades... eye appeal determines the price, nothing else...
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Whatever you paid for it should serve as a good proxy.
I hope it's Red. If it's not Red, no matter how nice the field/strike are, I wouldn't value it higher than an MS-64.
I agree with SPP that in those grades, it's all about eye appeal, but to put a range on the value, I'd say Brown $100, Red-Brown $150-$200, Red anywhere from $300 - $1000.
Edited by jg86
05/02/2013 09:56 am
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Pillar of the Community
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macdon....Could you post a clear pic of your great NGC MS66 1917 cent..?
Remember how the descriptions of those super high grade coins used to be described?
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NGC MS66 probably equals MS65 on the Canadian pricing charts. Maaayybbe only 64. Would need to see the coin. This is because NGC uses the full scale up to and including 70 while ICCS & CCCS don't. Canadian price lists are primarily based on ICCS grading standards. Personal opinion.
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macdon....Could you post a clear pic of your great NGC MS66 1917 cent..?
It is the coin that Noah refers to in his reply. Looks like I overpaid for it.
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What's the highest grade ICCS will assign to a Brown cent? 64?
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That is a fantastic colour for a toned cent.
I would want to call that "lustrous dark". The "browns" that I have don't allow you to see such detail and maybe for that reason,..browns would be considered a negative for a copper coin. Copper probably does best as it approaches the brilliance and full red grading as seen by demand and pricing..but...
I rarely "if ever" have seen such colour in a large cent. It almost belongs in it's own category.
Beautiful piece ..!!
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As a reference point I had an NGC MS66 Red cent cross graded by ICCS around a month or two ago and it came back MS65.
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The highest I have seen for a brown cent by ICCS is MS-64, with the comment "Lustrous Brown".
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I'd be interested in what this would cross-grade with ICCS. It's a very nice coin and has eye appeal, but the brown-ness is what will bring it down. I suspect this could also be MS-64 "Lustrous Brown".
SPP - If you saw that brown cent sell, how did the price compare to, say, a 63 Brown or a 64 Red?
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Have to agree with DEVLEC that the colour of this coin gives it an especially attractive "eye-appeal"... But as to grade there's no way this coins is MS-66... it is in my opinion an execeptionally strong MS-64+... possibly MS65 depending on the grader... However... who really knows anymore... given noahs 2nd example: Seriously... is there anybody who thinks this coin should receive an MS-65... ICCS is out to lunch here... looks no better to me than your garden variety MS-60...    Take care, and Have a Great Day! cameron93 Edited by cameron93
05/03/2013 11:35 am
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I don't know much about grading, but if that's MS-65 I'll eat my hat.  The best I would say on that is, MS-63, IMO...maybe? |
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The listing for coin <em43aeco277d> shows that it has been removed..? Never got to see it...  |
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Posted 05/02/2013 09:47 am
that eye appeal is everything, but just for an example, this one sold after being listed 3 times unsuccessfully at the same price:
